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The US Navy Needs Tankers: A Crisis In Capability

Posted on 6/1/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 7:55 pm
Very Informative and interesting read. I love realist





Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1756 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:27 pm to
I think we have an agreement with the Marshall Islands to commandeer their ships if necessary, but we would be short mariners as well.

The US maritime industry is a major defense liability.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12432 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:29 pm to
We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything? Interesting.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8007 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:35 pm to
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US maritime industry is a major defense liability.


Yeah and the union is corrupt as hell... i was in the SIU back in the 90s and that is family mob shite.
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1756 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:39 pm to
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We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything? Interesting.


Aside from the Military Sealift Command ships, the other ships mentioned in the article would be private vessels. Regular civilian crewed and owned tankers that would be taken under military control to supply the war effort.

We’d be rely on chartering Greek owned ships with foreign crews to support our troops
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21738 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:40 pm to
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We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything? Interesting.

The pentagon isn't a lot different from USAID. For every dollar of funding the spending side will break down to about 25% reasonable/legit, 25% not completely retarded by ridiculously inefficient, 30% retarded and 20% fraud.
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3679 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 9:03 pm to
That picture is of an unrep, not a refuel. That carrier is a nuke. The last conventional was CV-67, the JFK, which is now being turned into razor blades in Brownsville, Tx.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9447 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 9:21 pm to
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We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything?


Because 800 doesn't go as far as you think when a carrier is 15 billion apiece, an attack sub is 3 billion, etc. We chose a flawed philosophy of few hyper-expensive weapons vs many simpler and easier/faster to produce weapons. It'll cost us in a peer war. Those F-22's will look great shooting down 3 MiG's, until they get shot down themselves by the 4th, 5th, and 6th MiG that showed up.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 9:37 pm to
The Germans sank 200 merchant ships 80 years ago. Seems like investing too much into slow, lumbering targets isn’t the best use of funds given today’s battlefield with satellites able to guide (unmanned) air and sea assets with far more precision than the Nazis ever conceived.
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1756 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:57 pm to
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hat picture is of an unrep, not a refuel. That carrier is a nuke. The last conventional was CV-67, the JFK, which is now being turned into razor blades in Brownsville, Tx.


What do you think the jets use to fly?
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9447 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:00 pm to
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That picture is of an unrep, not a refuel.


I was stationed on a nuke carrier. We took on Jet fuel in every unrep. What do you think is flowing through those hoses?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73674 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:07 pm to
Pentagon audit.
Juuuuust around the corner.
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3679 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:34 pm to
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I was stationed on a nuke carrier. We took on Jet fuel in every unrep. What do you think is flowing through those hoses?


Damn. You are correct. These eyes ain't what they used to be. Yep, that's a tanker not a supply ship. And no choppers flying. Had to blow that pic up to see it. I was on JFK back in the 70s. And yes we did take on some fuel during unreps iirc. Think I'll shut up and slide back in my hole.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4265 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:41 pm to
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We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything? Interesting.


Lobbyists and defense contractors buying yachts.


That's why, both parties are to blame. Get off the Trump train, the GOP is just as fricked as the dems.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4515 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 8:09 pm to
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We have been spending 800 billion a year for Military. Why are we needing anything? Interesting.


Because we decided to virtually abandon shipbuilding and let the Chinese do that. It shouldn't be a problem. If we have a war, we'll just print money and buy some tankers from China. It's not an economic emergency or anything like that.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2035 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:11 pm to
This guy if a fricking dumbass. He actually thinks we refuel all our forward airbases with these few Navy tankers? Wtf is this guy actually talking about? Our forward air bases fly constantly and are never remotely close to not having enough fuel. There is this crazy thing called commercial tankers. Companies make money supplying fuel in places where they use tankers to get it there. What a dumbass.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2462 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:24 pm to
When I was in the Air Force, every base had left over funds to buy office supplies, clothes, or furniture. They can cut budget to buy a tanker every 2 yrs.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82672 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:25 pm to
John Mao is a bot idiot.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5705 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 10:18 pm to
The picture above reminds me of a story a good friend of mine told me once.

After we graduated high school he joined the Navy. The first time he went on a float for his first 6 month deployment he served aboard the USS Enterprise. He said after the resupply mission was completed that the smaller resupply ship would play the Star Trek theme over the intercom system as they pulled away from the Enterprise.

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