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Trump is on Capitol Hill right now scorching the 4 NY repubs for demanding SALT

Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71566 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:43 am
I live in California and the 2017 TCJA actually very slightly hurt me because of the salt cap, but the blame lies with Cali, not the Feds.

The salt deduction should be zero. It shouldn’t exist. It’s unfair, illogical, and lets blue states raise taxes without penalty.




Completely ending SALT would a large amount of needed revenue
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5450 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:45 am to
Why antagonize middle class voters in Blue states whose votes we need to keep the House?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71566 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:47 am to
The middle class does not utilize salt!!! That is a complete myth.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2489 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:51 am to
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The middle class does not utilize salt!!! That is a complete myth.


In NY they definitely do, people in LI and upstate vote Trump and use SALT to write off their property taxes
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71566 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:57 am to
In Mike Lawler’s district, less than 8% of voters took the salt deduction
Posted by BuzzdLightBeer
Member since Dec 2018
184 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 8:57 am to
SALT effects on average 17% of US households

It is a direct tax on the top 20% of income households.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13403 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:01 am to
Easy solution is for Elise Stefanik or whoever else is running for governor in 2026 in New York, California, Illinois run an a platform that eliminates the state income tax
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32454 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:02 am to
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It is a direct tax on the top 20% of income households.

You mean tax break.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47334 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:06 am to
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Completely ending SALT would a large amount of needed revenue

Terrible idea! States need revenue, and the taxes to raise that revenue should not be taxed by the Federal Government. I like the idea of a cap because otherwise a socialist state, like California, could go full on socialism and the feds would get no income tax.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:06 am to
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14504 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:07 am to
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The middle class does not utilize salt!!! That is a complete myth.
if they itemize they do.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29633 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:08 am to
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The middle class does not utilize salt!!!


I would be surprised if the number is large at all... This is so their rich friends and they can write off their State's taxes on their Federal return...
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32454 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:08 am to
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socialist state, like California, could go full on socialism and the feds would get no income tax.
Those residents would move to another state and the Fed would get tax income that way.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 9:10 am
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1075 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:10 am to
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Why antagonize middle class voters in Blue states whose votes we need to keep the House?

You are definitely correct but at the same time Trump is dead right. It makes no fricking sense whatsoever to have the deduction.

It allows these states to offload their own stupid political decisions on to the federal government.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21533 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:10 am to
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The salt deduction should be zero. It shouldn’t exist. It’s unfair, illogical, and lets blue states raise taxes without penalty.


It also benefits the higher earning taxpayers. Pay enough in state taxes, now you can deduct mortgage interest AND investment interest. So it’s effectively cheaper for them to borrow making it easier to free up cash.

The charitable contribution deduction is now open to (if you hit the itemized threshold) which is how the ultra rich scratch each others backs.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47334 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:14 am to
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You mean tax break.

It’s semantics. If my marginal income is taxes at 15% by the state and 40% by the feds, and I make another $100, then I pay $55 in taxes. If I can deduct state income taxes then I still pay $15 to the state, but my federal tax is 40% of $85, or $34. So I pay $51 in total taxes.

Neither one of those seem fair. Paying over 50% in total income taxes should be against the Constitution.

I’m in favor of deduction for state taxes with a limit of about 8%. A state that goes above 8% is trying to replace the federal government. If they do that then screw ‘em.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47334 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:18 am to
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Those residents would move to another state and the Fed would get tax income that way.

Some would; some would not be able to. I’m not in one of those states, but if I was I would have to suffer it because my grandkids are here.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17437 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:19 am to
What is salt? Some sort of property tax write off?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15823 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 9:27 am to
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SALT effects on average 17% of US households

It is a direct tax on the top 20% of income households.


So making the rich pay more?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
3214 posts
Posted on 5/20/25 at 4:15 pm to
Those are some good lobbyists.
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