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Lets talk fracking!
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:00 am
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:00 am
Its a topic i have extensive knowledge on.
1) to lift oil requires pressure within a reservoir.
2) to have oil to lift the reservoir requires a mobility pathway to the well.
An oil (or gas) well is drilled at approximately
1,100 - 16,500 ft depending on application.
The average ground water well in the U.S. is drilled to somewhere between 100 and 800 ft depending upon the basin.
Speaking in hypotheticals, let us pretend I request a frack on a 2,000 ft (3/8 of a mile) deep vertical well.
Let us pretend that I put enough sand, under enough pressure, to fracture not only the matrix i am producing but its cap rock, and 1,200 feet of the ground above it.
Let us pretend this causes a direct pathway for gas under pressure to eventually reach someone’s drinking water.
Let us pretend that my fracture is solely responsible for this pathway. (No one abandoned an old, shitty well nearby and did a bad cement job).
Let us (not) pretend that someone makes a documentary about fracking, in which, a drunken, schizo PA citizen lights his tap water on fire.
Let us (not) pretend that this becomes a national issue for the next 18 years.
Now - if I fractured that well. And caused or (not) cause all of that would i remain viable as an engineer or producer?
1) to lift oil requires pressure within a reservoir.
2) to have oil to lift the reservoir requires a mobility pathway to the well.
An oil (or gas) well is drilled at approximately
1,100 - 16,500 ft depending on application.
The average ground water well in the U.S. is drilled to somewhere between 100 and 800 ft depending upon the basin.
Speaking in hypotheticals, let us pretend I request a frack on a 2,000 ft (3/8 of a mile) deep vertical well.
Let us pretend that I put enough sand, under enough pressure, to fracture not only the matrix i am producing but its cap rock, and 1,200 feet of the ground above it.
Let us pretend this causes a direct pathway for gas under pressure to eventually reach someone’s drinking water.
Let us pretend that my fracture is solely responsible for this pathway. (No one abandoned an old, shitty well nearby and did a bad cement job).
Let us (not) pretend that someone makes a documentary about fracking, in which, a drunken, schizo PA citizen lights his tap water on fire.
Let us (not) pretend that this becomes a national issue for the next 18 years.
Now - if I fractured that well. And caused or (not) cause all of that would i remain viable as an engineer or producer?
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:10 am to Canada_Baw
You mean liable, not viable, right? Yes you would be liable. But if you screwed up my water resources on my land the least I’m worried about is the natural gas.
But this is an extremely rare situation you are laying out here.
But this is an extremely rare situation you are laying out here.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:12 am to GumboPot
No viable. Would i be working if i fractured 1,200 feet above my producing wellhead.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:13 am to Canada_Baw
SWD wells are far more dangerous and detrimental to the environment than fracking could ever be
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:13 am to GumboPot
Its a fricking impossible situation and that is the entire point.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:14 am to Canada_Baw
way to much pretending taking place
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:16 am to Trevaylin
Ok lets simplify it. If frac pop balloon - no oil come.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:19 am to Canada_Baw
quote:
Its a fricking impossible situation and that is the entire point.
In order to make a point it helps to make sense. No one can make sense of that mess in your OP
Looks like you’re drunk as shite, and that’s ok
Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:22 am to Rekrul
Ah thats fair.
Cheers.
Anyways cant believ that dumbshit is still even on anyones radar as an argument.
Oil reservoir deep deep below water. Cant make oil if balloon pop. Oil go to water, oil not come through pipe.
Cheers.
Anyways cant believ that dumbshit is still even on anyones radar as an argument.
Oil reservoir deep deep below water. Cant make oil if balloon pop. Oil go to water, oil not come through pipe.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 3:53 am to Canada_Baw
quote:Is there a reciprocal tariff on message board posts?
Canada_Baw
quote:In many places this water contamination occurs near historic oil seeps (was common in parts of PA) and coal seams [methane] (still common in parts of PA) but as you directly are addressing frac'g occurred below that.
Let us (not) pretend that someone makes a documentary about fracking, in which, a drunken, schizo PA citizen lights his tap water on fire.
It's either an indirect link or a false cause-result relationship.
I'm convinced the rest are due to poor surface and intermediary casing jobs and the gas migration into freshwater reservoir rock is during the production phase over time.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 4:19 am to Canada_Baw
quote:
Let us pretend that my fracture is solely responsible for this pathway. (No one abandoned an old, shitty well nearby and did a bad cement job).
Let us (not) pretend that someone makes a documentary about fracking, in which, a drunken, schizo PA citizen lights his tap water on fire.
In the Haynesville you wouldn't have any pipes for water to flow through from your water well to your house if fracking was responsible for the gas in your faucet. The pressure would rupture the PVC immediately because it is in the thousands of PSI.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:19 am to Canada_Baw
quote:
Canada_Baw
Thanks for the thread, something different.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:50 am to Canada_Baw
Let’s pretend nothing in your post happens. Let’s just pretend
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:51 am to Canada_Baw
Most of the perceived outrage is related to the increased activity that came from horizontal drilling. I would guess most of that is typically close to a mile below the surface at minimum (typically more); therefore, I wouldn’t even bring up vertical wells or disposal wells with this topic as they are totally different businesses/activities.
Your post did come across as a drunk post.
Your post did come across as a drunk post.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 8:00 am
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:57 am to Rekrul
quote:
In order to make a point it helps to make sense. No one can make sense of that mess in your OP
It made perfect sense to me. Puzzled at the downvotes on the OP.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:01 am to Canada_Baw
gotcha? That what you looking for
why do you sky screamers always look at the outliner hypotheticals in order to fear monger?
Oh, and you are a troll
why do you sky screamers always look at the outliner hypotheticals in order to fear monger?
Oh, and you are a troll
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:28 am to Mandtgr47
Let me attempt to clarify. I was drunk and i was laying out the hypothetical in complete mockery of the ridiculousness of the argument against fracking.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:41 am to Canada_Baw
Fracking sucks. We have plenty enough deep well oil not to need to invest in such a shitty inefficient process that destroys the land and creates tons of waste
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:45 am to Canada_Baw
quote:
Ah thats fair.
Cheers.
Anyways cant believ that dumbshit is still even on anyones radar as an argument.
Oil reservoir deep deep below water. Cant make oil if balloon pop. Oil go to water, oil not come through pipe.
Trying to decide if I'm gonna upvote or downvote for your attempts at appropriating native American speech cadence.
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