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Trump is blocking the CIA and Israel from attacking Iran.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:29 am
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NEW YORK TIMES – Israel had planned to strike Iranian nuclear sites as soon as next month but was waved off by President Trump in recent weeks in favor of negotiating a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program, according to administration officials and others briefed on the discussions.
Mr. Trump made his decision after months of internal debate over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel in seeking to set back Iran’s ability to build a bomb, at a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically.
The debate highlighted fault lines between historically hawkish American cabinet officials and other aides more skeptical that a military assault on Iran could destroy the country’s nuclear ambitions and avoid a larger war. It resulted in a rough consensus, for now, against military action, with Iran signaling a willingness to negotiate.
Israeli officials had recently developed plans to attack Iranian nuclear sites in May. They were prepared to carry them out, and at times were optimistic that the United States would sign off. The goal of the proposals, according to officials briefed on them, was to set back Tehran’s ability to develop a nuclear weapon by a year or more.
Almost all of the plans would have required U.S. help not just to defend Israel from Iranian retaliation, but also to ensure that an Israeli attack was successful, making the United States a central part of the attack itself.
For now, Mr. Trump has chosen diplomacy over military action.
This is where we need to insert the element that all media generally refuse to associate, Russia.
Iran has reengaged with officials from President Trump’s administration following a letter Trump wrote to the leadership in Iran. President Trump wants Mideast peace; he also wants to avoid the issue of Iran having a nuclear weapon. President Trump views military action as the last possible resort for failed diplomatic and geopolitical efforts.
Israel wants to attack Iran. President Trump wants to support Israel but doesn’t want expanded military conflict that pulls the USA into more Mideast war.
As we see in the continued issues within Ukraine, the CIA supports expanded conflict in both Ukraine and Iran. Israel and the CIA are in alignment. Hence, in our ongoing restaurant analogy, the CIA is the kitchen, and Israel has a table there.
Russian President Vladimir Putin could be an influential geopolitical partner with President Trump, if Trump can get the issues of Ukraine and Russia solved and then pivot to Iran.
Unfortunately, the CIA does not want the issues within Ukraine solved, doesn’t want Trump and Putin coordinating and certainly doesn’t want Trump and Putin to work out a new strategic global map that does not contain useful conflict. Again, Israel and the CIA are in alignment.
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:30 am to GumboPot
The MIC and those beholden to it certainly do not like this...
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:32 am to The Maj
Israel will not go at it alone. They need the cover of the U.S. to attack Iran.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:32 am to GumboPot
I support Trump 100% trying to avoid war with Iran, but to be clear Iran isn’t giving up their nuclear program without kinetic force or threat of a regime change against their leaders.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
But Bunkmoreland said Trump is bibis bitche
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
Damn, the bots said he does whatever Israel says.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:35 am to GumboPot
I'm tired of reading this crap about what the CIA wants. How difficult can it be to identify those directing Zylenski and/or slowing down Trumps plan for peace???
How many folks in the CIA are in a position to interfere in any meaningful way? It can't be many. Seems like it wouldn't be difficult to root em out and fire em. I don't understand this.
How many folks in the CIA are in a position to interfere in any meaningful way? It can't be many. Seems like it wouldn't be difficult to root em out and fire em. I don't understand this.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:36 am to lake chuck fan
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How many folks in the CIA are in a position to interfere in any meaningful way?
A bunch, most of the CIA is compromised.... It really needs to be razed to the ground....
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:42 am to GumboPot
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The report comes as a result of leaks to the New York Times. Which, given the nature of the subject matter and administration officials involved, indicates the sourcing is from the domestic IC side of things.
Specifically, the greatest likelihood is from someone in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) talking to media.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
@bunk moreland @seldom seen
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:49 am to lake chuck fan
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I'm tired of reading this crap about what the CIA wants. How difficult can it be to identify those directing Zylenski and/or slowing down Trumps plan for peace???
How many folks in the CIA are in a position to interfere in any meaningful way? It can't be many. Seems like it wouldn't be difficult to root em out and fire em. I don't understand this.
All good points.
But the CIA survives because of plausible deniability . I wouldn't know the nature of the plausible deniability because if I did, their game would be exposed.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:53 am to GumboPot
Fake news. Trump doesn't tell Israel what to do. They send the orders.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:55 am to GumboPot
Your suggested equivalence with the Ukraine war is a patent fallacy… apples and bowling balls.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:01 am to VOR
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Ukraine war
Speaking of that, is Zelensky still kicking Russia's arse.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:05 am to GumboPot
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All good points.
But the CIA survives because of plausible deniability . I wouldn't know the nature of the plausible deniability because if I did, their game would be exposed
I agree Gumbo, by definition those folks are excellent at subterfuge, its their game.
Still, seems there would be some good ones on the inside that could sniff em out.
Surely Trump realizes what's happening. Seems he would be infuriated at having his efforts undermined. I'm pissed for him.... lol
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:07 am to momentoftruth87
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NEW YORK TIMES
So we are believing The NY Times again? Just trying to keep up.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:09 am to momentoftruth87
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Damn, the bots said he does whatever Israel says.
Are you lost? This isn’t Reddit, where anyone who disagrees with you must be a bot.
This admin has been aggressive toward fighting back against “antisemitism”, so people are correct to celebrate Israel finally getting some pushback. This is also the only correct move for Trump, he knows his support would evaporate if he sent more Americans to die for Israel.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:10 am to PQuin
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be a bot.
PQuin
Member since Jul 2020
76 posts
Long time lurker or alter?
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:15 am to GumboPot
Defund the cia is the only way.
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