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Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:46 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:46 pm
Watching the Tucker Carlson Alex Jones Interview currently and both are huge proponents of coal.

Tucker was talking about nuclear war then shifted into power plants being attacked. Jones made a good point that if there is nuclear war if you survive then all the nuclear plants will eventually melt down around the world finishing it off.

There was a huge debate yesterday about how coal is worthless after Trump had his executive order.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19266 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:52 pm to
I'm not a fan of coal. I prefer nuclear. Natural gas is a good compromise between the two.

Also I was just checking national electricity prices and Texas has one of the lowest rates of around 8 cents per kwh. What is Texas doing to achieve it?
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38247 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Texas has one of the lowest rates of around 8 cents per kwh. What is Texas doing to achieve it?


Open competition
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3871 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:58 pm to
Screwing over the residents every time we get a freeze in the winter or hot spell in the summer
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2435 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Texas has one of the lowest rates


Seems they are on a separate grid from the cold war days.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19204 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:04 pm to
Electricity costs are every bit…if not more…prohibitive to growth as oil or anything else. We need to be ALL IN on electricity production regardless of the source.

I’d be good on subsidies to ramp our coal energy capabilities up as quickly as possible because THERE IS NO EXCUSE for scarcity of electricity or high energy costs.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
900 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Jones made a good point that if there is nuclear war if you survive then all the nuclear plants will eventually melt down around the world finishing it off.


I am not an expert on nuclear reactor design, but I do know that reactors are designed with multiple fail safe components which will shut them down automatically. Some of these are electrical, but a lot are purely mechanical, such as water pressure holding a valve shut or mechanical linkages that melt if they get too hot and cause gravity to move the control rods and stuff like that.

The Three Mile Island incident was caused by human intervention when the instrumentation was inaccurate, the mechanical fail safes were shutting down the reactor, but the humans believed the inaccurate instruments and kept doing things to try to keep the reactor running.
If they had done nothing, it would have shut itself down. It might still have caused some damage, but wouldn't have been as severe as it was.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3871 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:33 pm to
Fun fact
If Texas was a country we would be ranked number 5 ….globally in solar energy and number 5 globally in wind produced energy
… we have a lot of gas and oil.
We have our own grid.. and we cut cost not maintaining it or building preventative procedure. Our politicians say we are fixing it .. our state director recently quit due to differences of opinions on how to prepare for the future and political actual support of these.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7026 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:45 pm to


We ain’t got the chest. We meaning USA.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37064 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Also I was just checking national electricity prices and Texas has one of the lowest rates of around 8 cents per kwh. What is Texas doing to achieve it?
Based on the last decade, general unreliability?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19209 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:56 pm to
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What is Texas doing to achieve it?

Texas sits directly at the intersection of the Wind Belt and the Sun Belt, so wind and solar make perfect sense here. Plus, we're sitting on a sea of oil and natural gas. Our problem is ERCOT, not the ability to generate energy.
Posted by GenacGenacGenac
Member since Mar 2025
193 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:29 am to
Gasoline and oil will be here forever. Coal as well. Pittsburgh out produced more steel than Europe in ww2. But he’s been right…
Posted by finkle
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2016
77 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:49 am to
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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13930 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:00 am to
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Tucker was talking about nuclear war then shifted into power plants being attacked. Jones made a good point that if there is nuclear war if you survive then all the nuclear plants will eventually melt down around the world finishing it off.


Meh, natural gas combined cycle plants were replacing retired coal plants 25 years ago. They go up quicker, and are less expensive to build and operate.
Power plants have a useful life of 40-50 years. Coal was big in the late 70's when everyone said we would be out of oil soon. Jimmah gave them huge tax benefits to hurt oil/gas
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