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It’s happening, re tariffs
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:00 am
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Hold the line boys. The volatility over the next week will be of epic proportions
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:15 am to Lgrnwd
So which is it
Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place?
Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries?
Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place
Does anyone know?
Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place?
Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries?
Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place
Does anyone know?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:19 am to UltimaParadox
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So which is it Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place? Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries? Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place Does anyone know?
Yes
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:19 am to Lgrnwd
His little tariff chart was pretty much asking other countries to subsidize our trade deficit. Not really reciprocal tariffs. If he pulls this off, that will be amazing. However I’ll remain skeptical of all he is doing until my money returns.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 11:21 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:32 am to UltimaParadox
quote:
So which is it Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place? Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries? Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place Does anyone know?
It really is all of the above. The goal is to bring the manufacturing of things related to national security (steel, tech, pharmaceuticals) back to the US. While creating a more free trade environment for all other goods.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:42 am to Lgrnwd
What dem futures looking like? 
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:57 am to UltimaParadox
quote:It’s a global shakedown and the tariffs are the price to be paid until Trump, Bessent and Lutnick are satisfied. In the end our tariff revenue increases AND we get support refinancing our debt. That’s the goal at least IMO.
So which is it Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place? Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries? Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place Does anyone know?
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:58 am to UltimaParadox
There is no real logic other than “blow everything up, then quit fricking with it so it looks like we did something right”.
They’re sweating bullets that countries don’t retaliate. I don’t think they will- they’ll prolly bet they can run out the clock on a Trump administration.
They’re sweating bullets that countries don’t retaliate. I don’t think they will- they’ll prolly bet they can run out the clock on a Trump administration.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:24 pm to Lgrnwd
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It really is all of the above.
Eventually this will break down into hyper central planning and crony capitalism. It will get worse when/if the Democrats get back in charge.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:24 pm to Hateradedrink
So you are telling me Trump, who has been a successful international businessman for 4 decades and his right hand man Musk, who has been the biggest innovator and visionary of the last decade, went into this tariff announcement with no logical thought behind it?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:44 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
which is it
Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place?
Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries?
Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place
Does anyone know?
What about the fentanyl lol
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:47 pm to Lgrnwd
Citing Elon as a champion of tariffs here is pretty funny since he’s on record in the last day or so as saying tariffs are bad:
LINK
Regardless, yeah I do think they went into this with no real plan since Trump didn’t even decide on a plan until hours before the announcement:
LINK
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"At the end of the day, I hope it's agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero tariff situation, effectively creating a free trade zone between Europe and North America," the tech billionaire told Matteo Salvini, the leader of Italy's right-wing League Party.
LINK
Regardless, yeah I do think they went into this with no real plan since Trump didn’t even decide on a plan until hours before the announcement:
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After deliberations that went late into Tuesday, Trump didn’t decide on the final plan until about 1 p.m. Wednesday — less than three hours ahead of his Rose Garden announcement.
LINK
Posted on 4/6/25 at 12:50 pm to Lgrnwd
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So you are telling me Trump, who has been a successful international businessman for 4 decades and his right hand man Musk, who has been the biggest innovator and visionary of the last decade, went into this tariff announcement with no logical thought behind it?
LINK
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Donald Trump is the self-proclaimed “king of debt.” Before becoming president, he built his brand and companies with massive amounts of borrowed money.
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Allmand Law teamed up with James Publishing to illustrate this timeline by Mother Jones, outlining Trump’s Bankruptcies: How Trump Leveraged Other People’s Money to Make Bankruptcy Work for Him.
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In the 1980s, Trump amassed casinos, hotels, an airline, and a 282-foot mega yacht. But his gold-plated bubble popped. By June 1990, Trump was unable to make loan payments on his $3.4 billion in outstanding debts. In total, Trump businesses filed for bankruptcy six times.
In many ways, Trump’s path to bankruptcy is just like that of many other business owners. His ambition was bigger than his financial resources. Risky business decisions didn’t play out as planned. And his attempts to restructure his debt were unsuccessful. But, in classic Trump form, there are flourishes of scandal. (His father illegally tried to bail his companies out.)
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So how did he rebound and rebuild? Trump, along with his bankruptcy attorneys and financial advisors, used federal bankruptcy laws to their advantage. While investors and creditors lost a lot of their money, Trump was highly compensated for his day-to-day work, earned fees during the property transfers, and slashed his personal debts.
You ready for Trump to lose your money to enrich himself?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:11 pm to FLObserver
quote:Futures don't start trading on Sundays until 6 PM Eastern Time.
What dem futures looking like?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:28 pm to Suntiger
oh noz. a businessman used leverage and loans/debt to make money. THE HORROR!
used tax writeoffs the right way. oH NOZ.
u cucks are a joke
used tax writeoffs the right way. oH NOZ.
u cucks are a joke
Posted on 4/6/25 at 1:29 pm to LSURussian
The futures will be down 3% or more unless we hear something from the admin to chill the masses out heading into tomorrow’s trading.
My gut is that is that we open close to limit down tomorrow unless we hear something. I really really hope I’m wrong.
My gut is that is that we open close to limit down tomorrow unless we hear something. I really really hope I’m wrong.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:09 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:
oh noz. a businessman used leverage and loans/debt to make money. THE HORROR!
used tax writeoffs the right way. oH NOZ.
u cucks are a joke
Oh noez! Someone disparaged dear leader. I must call him a cuck, filthy prog or a groomer.
You cult members are a joke.
And so you’re okay with the president bankrupting the country to make himself money. Because that what you just made an analogy for.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:36 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
So which is it Bringing manufacturing back the US, thus the tarrifs should stay in place? Or removing tariffs so free trade can commence between two countries? Or removing the trade imbalance which would mean the tarrifs would need to stay in place
Yes
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:41 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:
There is no real logic other than “blow everything up, then quit fricking with it so it looks like we did something right”.
They’re sweating bullets that countries don’t retaliate. I don’t think they will- they’ll prolly bet they can run out the clock on a Trump administration.
+1
Posted on 4/6/25 at 3:50 pm to RLDSC FAN
The thing is we export so little relative to the wealth we export. So, while an escalating trade conflict would be very rough for the US it would cause devastation to our counterparts. Their only leverage in most cases is that they’re already poor and they don’t care if their constituents suffer. Our tolerance for pain is almost nonexistent.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 3:52 pm
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