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“The zone has shrunk tonight.” (Baseball umpiring)

Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:07 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20508 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:07 pm
Baseball purists think this is actually ok, and even a good thing for the game

The old guard dumbass baseball fans will never get out of their own way. Hopefully the new fans will actually be ok with making the game officiating more accurate.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:30 pm to
I could rant about this but I think the game lost itself when it stopped policing itself.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
765 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:30 pm to
I despise human umpires. I’ve been ready for computer umps since the Atari.

F the fat bastards.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20508 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:33 pm to
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I could rant about this but I think the game lost itself when it stopped policing itself.

Ahh. You’re one of those “unwritten rules” people??

That may be worse than the purists
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41815 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 1:12 am to
Call the damn strike zone as it is written, or get replaced by someone (or something) that will.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40944 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 1:18 am to
If they ever go to Ai umps, it will hurt offensive production. The by the book strike is much larger than what human umps call. Although human umps can still have some crazy strikes zones. So what I'm saying is I need some fishsticks.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15519 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 1:28 am to
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If they ever go to Ai umps, it will hurt offensive production. The by the book strike is much larger than what human umps call.
Not really that much of a difference

What will make a difference is batters knowing exactly where a strike is and not feeling compelled to swing with 2 strikes at something outside because blue is being a clown that day
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 1:29 am
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40944 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 1:49 am to
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Not really that much of a difference


The technical strike zone is much larger than what any ump calls today.
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
6224 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 2:14 am to
I bounce back and forth between the two sides on this. I do get where the purists are coming from, but hate seeing my team being continually hosed by some dumb arse ump. I land on the Human Umpire side just because I do like the imperfect, romantic side of baseball.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3124 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 4:02 am to
What does Greg Maddux’s career look like with robo umps? He made a career out of slowly getting the ump to make calls 6” off the plate
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20508 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:35 am to
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land on the Human Umpire side just because I do like the imperfect, romantic side of baseball.

And here we are folks lol
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6550 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:51 am to
Absolutely true.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10410 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:53 am to
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Call the damn strike zone as it is written, or get replaced by someone (or something) that will.

^This. I hate when I hear umpires say "my strike zone is so md so". It's not "your strike zone" its the strike zone.

ETA: I also hate the old "he's a rookie so he's not going to get that call or as wide of a strike zone". What kind of shite is this?
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 6:55 am
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24826 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 6:59 am to
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The technical strike zone is much larger than what any ump calls today


Only high to low.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 7:56 am to
I’m a baseball purist and don’t have a problem with electronic aids for calling balls and strikes. The problem is that even if it’s a robot calling balls and strikes, people will still bitch if a call goes against their team because that’s what fans do.

They can’t accept that s**t happens in sports and sometimes your team is going to fail or lose even if they’re “superior” or “better” than an opponent, so they have to look for excuses for why what they think should have happened didn’t, like the officiating.

I don’t romanticize the human element in the game. I romanticize the fact that there’s always uncertainty in how things turn out and that the unexpected can happen and, above all, that the greatest baseball players fail literally 65% of the time.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 7:58 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20508 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:37 am to
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The problem is that even if it’s a robot calling balls and strikes, people will still bitch if a call goes against their team because that’s what fans do.

It’s likely to be wayyyyy less bitching after a while though if it’s called accurately. Only idiots are going to argue that going forward.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:39 am to
And fans watching 1,000 miles away on TV are supposed to be the ultimate judges of what’s accurate …
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35756 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 8:41 am to
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What does Greg Maddux’s career look like with robo umps? He made a career out of slowly getting the ump to make calls 6” off the plate


You think giving Maddux another 4"-5" on the top of the strike zone wouldn't help him? The total area to work with would remain about the same and he was a master of speed and location control.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15519 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The technical strike zone is much larger than what any ump calls today.
Then you should write Manfred a letter and tell him his umps don’t know what the zone is

Delusional
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
15519 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:20 am to
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I land on the Human Umpire side just because I do like the imperfect, romantic side of baseball.
There’s nothing romantic about a guy who’s been giving 3 inches off the plate deciding to tighten the zone and fricking your team

Perfection will work just fine
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