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Everyday investors don’t cause market corrections, it works like this…
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:36 pm
You and I are not selling our positions and causing this and other corrections. Even if a certain large percentage did, it would not make a big impact
You and I are not contacting our 401k administrators and stopping our contributions that are taken from our paychecks
You and I are not moving from stocks to bonds or cash in our self directed brokerage accounts.
These events are caused by, and intentionally by, a certain group, and they collude with each other to do it. They are the Goldman Sacks’, Morgan Stanley’s, Bank of America’s, JP Morgan’s, Blackrock’s, and a handful of others, foreign and domestic.
Why?
To get the speculation and euphoria out of the market and to create opportunities for themselves. They build large cash positions, then dump large blocks of stocks, tank the market, pump it up a few percent to get us to think it’s over, then dump again. Whenever they get the prices down to where they want it, they buy back in at bargains, giving a large return to their portfolios so they can please their big time investors or improve their firm’s financial numbers, giving cause for massive bonuses.
This is the way it works, always has and always will. It’s being blamed on tariffs and inflation uncertainty, but if it weren’t that, they would come up with another reason.
If you regularly watch CNBC, when you hear the experts talking about a “Goldilocks” economy, that’s the code word for a downturn is imminent. Whenever they are all exasperated and say the market has changed into a new paradigm of negative returns going forward for the foreseeable future, that’s when it’s over and the markets will start to perform.
Just keep contributing your money consistently and don’t panic and sell your positions.
You and I are not contacting our 401k administrators and stopping our contributions that are taken from our paychecks
You and I are not moving from stocks to bonds or cash in our self directed brokerage accounts.
These events are caused by, and intentionally by, a certain group, and they collude with each other to do it. They are the Goldman Sacks’, Morgan Stanley’s, Bank of America’s, JP Morgan’s, Blackrock’s, and a handful of others, foreign and domestic.
Why?
To get the speculation and euphoria out of the market and to create opportunities for themselves. They build large cash positions, then dump large blocks of stocks, tank the market, pump it up a few percent to get us to think it’s over, then dump again. Whenever they get the prices down to where they want it, they buy back in at bargains, giving a large return to their portfolios so they can please their big time investors or improve their firm’s financial numbers, giving cause for massive bonuses.
This is the way it works, always has and always will. It’s being blamed on tariffs and inflation uncertainty, but if it weren’t that, they would come up with another reason.
If you regularly watch CNBC, when you hear the experts talking about a “Goldilocks” economy, that’s the code word for a downturn is imminent. Whenever they are all exasperated and say the market has changed into a new paradigm of negative returns going forward for the foreseeable future, that’s when it’s over and the markets will start to perform.
Just keep contributing your money consistently and don’t panic and sell your positions.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:45 pm to Skippy1013
Wow man, this is great stuff. Thanks for informing all of us, now we know how it really works
Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:12 pm to Skippy1013
A trillion dollars or more is injected into the U.S. stock market each year through retirement accounts alone. This essentially happens on auto pilot.
The idea that there is any real “price discovery” anymore is a joke. It’s all institutional manipulation for the most part and we’re just along for the ride.
The idea that there is any real “price discovery” anymore is a joke. It’s all institutional manipulation for the most part and we’re just along for the ride.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:05 pm to Skippy1013
And it's Goldman Sachs. With all those spelling and grammatical errors your grasp of other issues is suspect.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:30 pm to Skippy1013
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These events are caused by, and intentionally by, a certain group, and they collude with each other to do it
Cmon man
That’s my greatest ally you’re talking about
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:39 pm to Skippy1013
I bought $10 of powerball so I’m not worried
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:42 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
This Torchthefly guy…
You can make fun of my grammar if you want, that’s fine.
In my 39 years in Finance, I wrote my reports and always had low level staff members to clean up my grammar for me. People like you, but I don’t have that luxury on Tigerdroppings.
I got into a financial career in 1986 and have seen it all and the patterns are mostly all alike. There are some exceptions, such as the dot.com bear market and the 2008 financial crisis. Those took time, but all of the other corrections have bounced back in a somewhat short period of time, with record highs plus within a couple of years or even just a few months.
Stick with your automatic investments in the market, Mutual Funds, ETF’s and a handful of individual stocks and you will be financially set.
You can make fun of my grammar if you want, that’s fine.
In my 39 years in Finance, I wrote my reports and always had low level staff members to clean up my grammar for me. People like you, but I don’t have that luxury on Tigerdroppings.
I got into a financial career in 1986 and have seen it all and the patterns are mostly all alike. There are some exceptions, such as the dot.com bear market and the 2008 financial crisis. Those took time, but all of the other corrections have bounced back in a somewhat short period of time, with record highs plus within a couple of years or even just a few months.
Stick with your automatic investments in the market, Mutual Funds, ETF’s and a handful of individual stocks and you will be financially set.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:19 pm to Skippy1013
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In my 39 years in Finance
Then you should know that giving financial advice on an internet forum is not the best idea.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:35 pm to TDTOM
I’m not a financial advisor, I’m in the Finance sector. Long term and consistent investing in Mutual Funds, ETF’s and individual stocks, without worrying about normal market corrections is not what I think anyone would consider as financial advice.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 3/28/25 at 7:50 pm to Skippy1013
From my time at the poker tables, and making the finals in some decent sized tournaments, the pros don’t necessarily collude. They dont need to collude to act in unison. They can read the action like they are reading the TV guide. They all play very much alike and they pick up on each others moves and would prefer to not go against each other while there are smaller fish to feed on. They will if they sense weakness, but they would rather not.
Now the firms mentioned are surely much more organized than some professional card players but I believe it translates.
Now the firms mentioned are surely much more organized than some professional card players but I believe it translates.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:18 pm to Skippy1013
One more piece of advice to those freaking out over the value of their brokerage accounts.
You should always look at the total value of your accounts and multiply it times .90, yes 90% of its value. That’s realistically your account value.
Why? Because at any time, a month such as this one, March 2025 can happen and you can’t do a darn thing about it.
You should always look at the total value of your accounts and multiply it times .90, yes 90% of its value. That’s realistically your account value.
Why? Because at any time, a month such as this one, March 2025 can happen and you can’t do a darn thing about it.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:01 pm to Skippy1013
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Stick with your automatic investments in the market, Mutual Funds, ETF’s and a handful of individual stocks and you will be financially set.
Why? That will get me the return "given" to me by the players. Why not play the game and make $$$? That's the strategy to follow if you can find it.
The cover your eyes and just keep dumping money in over 40 yrs mentality will get you there with budget discipline over time - 100%. Following the lead of the market will get you there faster. Have to realize we're just small fish, follow the predators.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 12:57 am to ApexHunterNetcode
DCA is always the best plan, but how you go about it differs. This was TSP advice. G/C/F/S/I funds
Lets say you put $904 / paycheck into your Roth 401k like clockwork (26 pay periods). You would do well.
I advise my people to 85% into C & S funds and 15% into G (Bonds). With the intention of having that G fund build up and when the market starts to get crazy or scary, then move it as well into the C/S at that time, effectively DCA with the ability to buy the dips.
Lets say you put $904 / paycheck into your Roth 401k like clockwork (26 pay periods). You would do well.
I advise my people to 85% into C & S funds and 15% into G (Bonds). With the intention of having that G fund build up and when the market starts to get crazy or scary, then move it as well into the C/S at that time, effectively DCA with the ability to buy the dips.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 5:17 am to Skippy1013
So you're saying now is a good time to buy? Or that I should wait until later in the year?
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:31 am to Huey Lewis
If you’re patient and a long term investor, then yes. We are down 10%, so you’re getting in on a “sale”.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 9:34 am to Skippy1013
Your 90% point is very sound advice. for what it's worth, to the group, reading up on William Bernstein and his financial advice is worth it. He starts out with 'if you can't for younger investors, 'deep risk', the finally 'if you've won the game, stop playing'. his point about stocks and risk as you get closer to your number and retiring is very wise, particularly in times like now.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:31 am to Skippy1013
You could have just said "nothing is ever Trump's fault" and it would have saved everyone a lot of time.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:37 am to Skippy1013
Everyday investors will be the bag holders. Fed policy, passive investing and index funds have turned them into Pavlovian dip buying dogs. As a share of global equity market cap the S&P has peaked and the rebalancing has just begun.
US interest expense>defense results in DC saying to Japan, Europe etc… we can’t afford to defend you anymore, defend yourselves.
US net international investment position is negative 76% which means foreigners own a lot more of our assets than we own of theirs and that’s what they’re selling to reinvest at home in their defense industrial base.
Additionally the admin told China in a Friday night late night memo to take their money and go home. They own a lot of mag 7.
LINK
These trends are just getting started, without covid level QE Mag 7 will become Bag 7. The admin is front loading bad economic news before their stimulative policies take shape. When they do I believe industrial, electrical and grid related equities will rip, not mag 7 tech. Those stocks only reached nosebleed multiples with foreign money and that money is being called home.
US interest expense>defense results in DC saying to Japan, Europe etc… we can’t afford to defend you anymore, defend yourselves.
US net international investment position is negative 76% which means foreigners own a lot more of our assets than we own of theirs and that’s what they’re selling to reinvest at home in their defense industrial base.
Additionally the admin told China in a Friday night late night memo to take their money and go home. They own a lot of mag 7.
LINK
These trends are just getting started, without covid level QE Mag 7 will become Bag 7. The admin is front loading bad economic news before their stimulative policies take shape. When they do I believe industrial, electrical and grid related equities will rip, not mag 7 tech. Those stocks only reached nosebleed multiples with foreign money and that money is being called home.
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