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The only group that still believes in the elite universities....

Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:33 am
.....are the Conservative Republicans.

Do you agree with JD Vance's bud Peter Thiel?

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:36 am to
a true/sincere meritocracy has its merits
Posted by BozemanTiger
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:37 am to
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The only group that still believes in the elite universities...


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Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:39 am to
I'm sorry, but an LSU chemical engineering degree is way more impressive than Harvard Poly Sci.

Just saying.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:40 am to
I’ve always thought of “elite” universities as the name brand item.

At the end of the day, outside of the name they aren’t really that special
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:43 am to
I may disagree on his metrics for intelligent, but no, we don't want stupid people running things.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:52 am to
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a true/sincere meritocracy has its merits



i've known about 5-10 Ivy League grads and two MITs. all of them are genuinely impressive people. i know that during the rise of DEI there were your David Hoggs and the dude that wrote BLM on repeat that got in, but most everybody else i've known were merited.

I actually know 2 Tulane and Dartmouth MDs that became stay at home moms and they're both brilliant.

I'm not opposed to Credentialism to a degree but I want them to actually be impressive people.

I think Tucker Carlson said "i'm not against eliteism. I'm an elitist. I just want impressive elites and these people aren't impressive."
Posted by dstone12
Texan
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:55 am to
Am I correct that MIT could still be an elite university since numbers go woke way less than a Poli science essay?
Posted by USAFTiger42
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:55 am to
I'd say most engineering degrees more weight. I'm a ChemE so I'm biased. PoliSci is a joke and honestly most degrees should just be apprenticeship or at community college. The advanced STEM degrees you need 4 yrs because you gotta root out the idiots.
Posted by waiting4saturday
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:57 am to
But is Howard that much worse than Harvard now a days since DEI took over?
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:23 pm to
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But is Howard that much worse than Harvard now a days since DEI took over?


Yes. Take any and all quotas & DEI nonsense that Harvard may have done, multiply it tenfold and apply it to a group of applicants that isn't nearly as impressive.

If the point you were trying to make is that Harvard (and other schools) are largely living on past performance and they shouldn't be looked at in awe, then I agree with you. But it will still produce a MUCH better product than Howard given similar fields.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:29 pm to
the anti elitism is running amok.

Most agree that the Ivys have been a hotbed of radicalism for a while, but that doesnt diminish they are still elite schools.

Instead of bashing them, take them over.

Dont turn into the Maples, be the Oaks.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
They say, "The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light"
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295502 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:30 pm to
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I think Tucker Carlson said "i'm not against eliteism. I'm an elitist. I just want impressive elites and these people aren't impressive."


Thats actually a great quote. Gotta hand it to Tucker.
Posted by seedmonster77
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:34 pm to
To get into these schools you have to have a certain number of zeros in your bank account, or your last name has to be Kennedy. A lot of these folks couldn't get into UW-Madison if they didn't have connections/money.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:36 pm to
Well the problem with and the easily identifiable trend of the past 40 to 50 years is that universities are far more about indoctrination than they are education

and at the elitist institutions it's not that they teach something different it's just nerds have trouble socializing and when indoctrination is the most important thing nerds / auties are easily swayed

Rice is unrecognizable to me vs the brief time I was on campus. Honestly the ideology at Rice was maybe closer to libertarianism as a political ideology than anything else it was definitely not liberal not progressive wasn't conservative except they respected math , and didn't consider it racist.
Still taught the classics in English lit. Still presented Western democracy as the preferred Govt system
Posted by The General
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Member since Nov 2003
547 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:42 pm to
Dont turn into the Maples, be the Oaks.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
They say, "The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light"
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw

Thumbs up purely on the RUSH reference. That's quality
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
4171 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

I think Tucker Carlson said "i'm not against eliteism. I'm an elitist. I just want impressive elites and these people aren't impressive."



The Hunter Biden laptop scandal revealed emails to Hunter Biden, from Tucker Carlson, begging for Hunter's help in getting Tucker's son into Georgetown (he ultimately didn't get accepted).
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69693 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:48 pm to
Any chemical engineering degree from any accredited school is, it’s a whole other level of intelligence required that’s based not only in theory but in practice.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69693 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:49 pm to
I’ll take a West Point or Annapolis grad over Harvard
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109607 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:53 pm to
Walz went to lowest ranked college in the entire state of Nebraska. It’s basically a community college. Kamala’s education was likely pure DEI.

There’s a big gap and a lot in between educationally those two and “elite universities.”
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