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About that food bank not getting their 2 million from USDA. Why are they really upset?
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:10 pm
Well, that food bank pays a salary to people working there. And here is the break down of that.
LINK
They pay the top people right at... you guessed it... 2 MILLION in salaries to run the food bank that takes in 234 million and has 1 Million in assets.
Not only that, in their filing:
Notable Expenses Percent of Total Expenses
Executive Compensation $1,061,361
0.4%
Professional Fundraising Fees $2,072,243
0.9%
Other Salaries and Wages $12,165,050
5.1%
LINK
They pay the top people right at... you guessed it... 2 MILLION in salaries to run the food bank that takes in 234 million and has 1 Million in assets.
Not only that, in their filing:
Notable Expenses Percent of Total Expenses
Executive Compensation $1,061,361
0.4%
Professional Fundraising Fees $2,072,243
0.9%
Other Salaries and Wages $12,165,050
5.1%
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:16 pm to BCreed1
This need to be linked in the other thread too.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:17 pm to BCreed1
The more basic question is:
Why is a privately run charity organization receiving tax payer funding? The entire point of a food bank is that people willingly donate food so other people in need can use it.
I have volunteered at plenty of food banks and have never in my life heard of one going to govt for extra funds.
If you are relying on taxpayer funds to maintain your charity/food bank, then you aren’t a charity. You are a govt program
Why is a privately run charity organization receiving tax payer funding? The entire point of a food bank is that people willingly donate food so other people in need can use it.
I have volunteered at plenty of food banks and have never in my life heard of one going to govt for extra funds.
If you are relying on taxpayer funds to maintain your charity/food bank, then you aren’t a charity. You are a govt program
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:19 pm to BCreed1
quote:
2 MILLION in salaries to run the food bank that takes in 234 million and has 1 Million in assets.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:23 pm to BCreed1
In 2014 the CEO made $163K. Ten years later the CEO makes $294K. Inflation.
I want to know how much of that $243M went to food.
I want to know how much of that $243M went to food.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:23 pm to BCreed1
No different than Clinton Foundation. Same grift, different name
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Why is a privately run charity organization receiving tax payer funding? The entire point of a food bank is that people willingly donate food so other people in need can use it.
Exactly.
quote:
I have volunteered at plenty of food banks and have never in my life heard of one going to govt for extra funds.
Me too and those are great services without the overhead. It's community taking care of their in need citizens.
That's what charity is about. This isn't about that however.
quote:
If you are relying on taxpayer funds to maintain your charity/food bank, then you aren’t a charity. You are a govt pro
Agreed
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:57 pm to BCreed1
This is why you don't cut the funding, you send it to the states directly. Once you cut the dollars though, there will be people that get less food and when you take away food, you lose votes. All of that will be pinned on the administration. When you send it to the states there will be an uproar and accountability for this stuff (the only exceptions being deep blue states and fostering revolt against them is a good thing).
When you send the money direct to the states it's on them.
When you send the money direct to the states it's on them.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:03 pm to BCreed1
Wow the management team is making a killing. I want to go work for a foodbank, they are making up to 300k+ a year working at a non profit thats insane. Looks like even the managers below CEO are making over 120k to 200k per year with a nice bonus. Must be nice!
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:05 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
This is why you don't cut the funding, you send it to the states directly. Once you cut the dollars though, there will be people that get less food and when you take away food, you lose votes. All of that will be pinned on the administration. When you send it to the states there will be an uproar and accountability for this stuff (the only exceptions being deep blue states and fostering revolt against them is a good thing).
That's just your opinion. No offense intended.
quote:
When you send the money direct to the states it's on them.
I think that you cut out the middle men. Save tax dollars by doing so.
Just at 1 food bank that's complaining pays 15 million just in salaries to the top 10 people.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:05 pm to WizardSleeve
quote:
Looks like even the managers below CEO are making over 120k to 200k per year with a nice bonus. Must be nice!
Exactly.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:30 pm to BCreed1
They can start taking food from the food bank then. They will be fine.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:36 pm to roadGator
The vast majority of Americans support doge and Elon
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:39 pm to POTUS2024
quote:
This is why you don't cut the funding, you send it to the states directly. Once you cut the dollars though, there will be people that get less food and when you take away food, you lose votes.
Don't people living off the government usually vote Dem?
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:43 pm to BCreed1
I’m not sure of any bias Charity Navigator has but they do get 100% score.
Their expenses seem to be in line with the large revenue.
Still though, I wonder how much we spend on private charities.
Sometimes private is better than the behemoth that is the inefficient government.
Their expenses seem to be in line with the large revenue.
Still though, I wonder how much we spend on private charities.
Sometimes private is better than the behemoth that is the inefficient government.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:44 pm to NashvilleTider
Ok. 
Posted on 3/15/25 at 1:53 pm to roadGator
quote:
Their expenses seem to be in line with the large revenue.
Because a 501c can not show profit.
So the spend less than they take in to afford the salaries that they want to move them to be in line.
So if they want more in salary, they spend less or take in more.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:12 pm to BCreed1
Their Navigator score would reflect that.
I don’t think this is an evil entity.
I don’t think this is an evil entity.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:22 pm to roadGator
Charity Navigator rates nonprofits based on:
Financial Health: Includes metrics like program, administrative, and fundraising expense percentages.
Accountability & Transparency: Includes metrics like working capital and average total expenses
It's weighted as follows: 38% Accountability & Finance, 47% Impact & Measurement, 10% Leadership & Adaptability, 5% Culture & Community.
Accountability & Finance is measured like this:
Majority Independent Board Members - 100% independent members
6 out of 6 points
Independent Board Size - 25 independent members
6 out of 6 points
Financial Statements - Audit and Oversight Committee
12 out of 12 points
Material Diversion of Assets - None
12 out of 12 points
This has nothing to do with the topic.
Tax Form Disclosures and Policies:
Website Listed on Tax Form - Listed
3 out of 3 points
Conflict of Interest Policy - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Whistleblower Policy - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Document Retention and Destruction - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Documents Board Meeting Minutes - Yes
3 out of 3 points
Compensates Board - No
5 out of 5 points
Tax Form Distributed to Board Before Filing - Listed
3 out of 3 points
Loans to/from Officers - None
5 out of 5 points
Reports CEO and Compensation on Tax Form - Listed
5 out of 5 points
CEO Compensation Process - Listed
5 out of 5 points
The point remains. Those salaries come from the money they take in. It's based on whatever % they want to pay themselves. Whatever that percentage, it is subtracted from the funds taken in and the rest spent.
The Nav score has no reflection on that.
Financial Health: Includes metrics like program, administrative, and fundraising expense percentages.
Accountability & Transparency: Includes metrics like working capital and average total expenses
It's weighted as follows: 38% Accountability & Finance, 47% Impact & Measurement, 10% Leadership & Adaptability, 5% Culture & Community.
Accountability & Finance is measured like this:
Majority Independent Board Members - 100% independent members
6 out of 6 points
Independent Board Size - 25 independent members
6 out of 6 points
Financial Statements - Audit and Oversight Committee
12 out of 12 points
Material Diversion of Assets - None
12 out of 12 points
This has nothing to do with the topic.
Tax Form Disclosures and Policies:
Website Listed on Tax Form - Listed
3 out of 3 points
Conflict of Interest Policy - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Whistleblower Policy - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Document Retention and Destruction - Listed
5 out of 5 points
Documents Board Meeting Minutes - Yes
3 out of 3 points
Compensates Board - No
5 out of 5 points
Tax Form Distributed to Board Before Filing - Listed
3 out of 3 points
Loans to/from Officers - None
5 out of 5 points
Reports CEO and Compensation on Tax Form - Listed
5 out of 5 points
CEO Compensation Process - Listed
5 out of 5 points
The point remains. Those salaries come from the money they take in. It's based on whatever % they want to pay themselves. Whatever that percentage, it is subtracted from the funds taken in and the rest spent.
The Nav score has no reflection on that.
Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:59 pm to BCreed1
quote:
Their expenses seem to be in line with the large revenue.
quote:also worth noting, their inventory (for the most part) is expires.
Because a 501c can not show profit.
So the spend less than they take in to afford the salaries that they want to move them to be in line.
So if they want more in salary, they spend less or take in more.
Do not know, if faced with the prospect of acquiring more food that would go bad (to avoid a profit) vs. paying administrative costs it MIGHT be a lesser of two evils prospect.
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