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THE warharks insist that WE all believe Russia started the war. We started it. Here's how

Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6584 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:52 am
Notice the documents declassified that verify the US guarantee to Russia that the US and NATO will not move one inch forward after the Unification of Germany.

This point is denied by the warhawks. Here is the proof... along with all the aggression in sequential order.

This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:54 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69654 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:56 am to
It doesn't matter who started it. The important thing is ending it so that the killing stops and the risk of a larger war is averted.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5535 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:58 am to
SFP will not be amused. I think I see a mushroom cloud forming over his office.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66580 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:00 am to
Imagine if Russia or China ran a coup in Mexico, put 12 spy bases on the border, and had their equivalent of Biden, McCain, and Graham constantly visiting and meddling in Mexico's affairs. That doesn't even get into the NATO angle. Oh, and Merkel and Hollande have admitted Minsk II was a delay tactic to build up Ukraine.
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This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:02 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1839 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:00 am to
quote:

SFP will not be amused. I think I see a mushroom cloud forming over his office.


by office you mean his mobile home.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74059 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:03 am to
Advice for a nickle?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10462 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:05 am to
That's 30 minutes long and I'm not watching it, but I am wondering if you'll answer one question.

Russia clearly and inarguably took actions that violated international law.

What actions did the US take that violated international law?

Thanks in advance for your answer.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56159 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:06 am to
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doesn't matter who started it


It’s important US government acknowledge its involvement so liberals can get a dose of reality

They were lied to
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:08 am to
If 30 minutes is too long for you then you're basically admitting you have no desire to actually be informed on the subject so why should anybody answer anything you fricking ask
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25093 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:09 am to
The former Soviet satellite countries clamored to get into NATO to be secure, free and without fear of Russian dominance.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30420 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:22 am to
quote:

That's 30 minutes long and I'm not watching it, but I am wondering if you'll answer one question.

Russia clearly and inarguably took actions that violated international law.

What actions did the US take that violated international law?

Thanks in advance for your answer.


Treaty in 1990 said that NATO would never advance east toward Russia. NATO did advance east with lots of help from the US. Around eight more countries joined. US set up missile systems on NATO boarder toward Russia. Russia didn't react, just complained. And when the US was pushing for Ukraine to join NATO in 2014, the population and administration favored not joining NATO. The US then replaced that Ukrainian government with one of their own making to push US policy in the country and force conflict with Russia.

NATO trying to take Ukraine was the final straw.

There's also a lot more stuff in there to add to contributed to the conflict.

That's how I interpreted it. It was a very good video. I believe the people discussing it knew what they were talking about. The main discussion was held at Columbia University it looks like.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:28 am
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16591 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:33 am to
The Biden admin also blew up the Nordstream pipeline.

We 100pct instigated Russia aggression.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16591 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:36 am to
quote:

What actions did the US take that violated international law?



Um, Nordstream
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5535 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:47 am to
quote:

That's 30 minutes long and I'm not watching it, but I am wondering if you'll answer one question.

Russia clearly and inarguably took actions that violated international law.

What actions did the US take that violated international law?



If you would watch the video is explains in great deal that not only did we violate multiple treaties we also violated international law.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17404 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:47 am to
How is this proof? How can you be so sure that this is the truth in all of this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465857 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Notice the documents declassified that verify the US guarantee to Russia at the US and NATO will not move one inch forward after the Unification of Germany.


So we "started the war" in 2022 due to actions 20-30 years prior?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40603 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:49 am to
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sta4ever


lol a fricking Biden voter asking for truth. Ukraine is your new Covid. So so weird.
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
978 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:49 am to
Watch it at X2 speed.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5535 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:49 am to
quote:

So we "started the war" in 2022 due to actions 20-30 years prior?


Watch the video and you will find the answer you seek.
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