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German electoral map is like a nighttime satellite view of the Korean peninsula

Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:18 am
ETA: Read my follow-up posts further down for more explanation of what I mean when I comment on the effects of the DDR on the people in the East


I’ve spent a decent amount of time in Germany. I also worked for a 200 year old company whose HQ was deep in the West, but had bought a similar company in the East after the wall came down. Even 20 years later, you could still detect a very stark difference in the people.

It’s now been 35 years, but that difference seems as pronounced as ever.

It’s amazing what a totalitarian communist state does to the mind.

This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:20 am to
Lets build back the wall.

I sill have my piece at my parents house in a closet.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87190 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:20 am to
explain this to me. is the east german side going for the conservative party and the western side more progressive? is that what i'm seeing?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:22 am to
I'm not up on German politics, who are the players? Is blue the good guys and black the bad, or vice versa?
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:22 am to
Looks like Eastern France and Western Poland should be the new names of that country.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:23 am to
That is what's going on. The former commies don't want any more commie shite.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:29 am to
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That is what's going on. The former commies don't want any more commie shite.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:30 am to
Its the DAVOS influence.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:32 am to
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explain this to me. is the east german side going for the conservative party and the western side more progressive? is that what i'm seeing?



Eastern Germany are essentially MAGA and where the least amount of migrants have gone to.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:34 am to
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Eastern Germany are essentially MAGA and where the least amount of migrants have gone to.
kinda like southern florida aka 'escaped cubans'
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21059 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:35 am to
Time is a flat circle. Those impacted by communism want nothing to do with it. Those made wealthy by capitalism and the west want to make things communist.

It’s the tough times great good men and good times create weak men statement.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23011 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:36 am to
Downvotes give me the impression people think I’m saying something different than my intent.

East Germans (when I worked there) had more of a default toward just turn the crank, ie, they were not the voices at the leadership table advocating for ambitious business goals. They were not hostile to it. They just were not sure how to navigate it.

Now, though, ex Warsaw Pact countries are easily the most likely to resist big government and collective goals. They lean a lot more into voicing contempt for the whole idea of it.

They are fine with the lower trade barriers of a common market, but not a pan-European governing structure where Brussels dilettantes make decisions for countries they regard like US coastal types think of the SEC, ie, backwater rubes.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4183 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:46 am to
Time for former East Germany to vote for independence from from the neo nazi state.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23011 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:50 am to
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I'm not up on German politics, who are the players? Is blue the good guys and black the bad, or vice versa?

Black is the Christian Democratic Union, or CDU. The closest analog here would probably be establishment GOP. Many there may have sympathies for some elements of MAGA/AfD, but either find the overall message distasteful, don’t want the heat, or are sucking up to “polite” society.

Blue is Alternative fur Deutschland, which is generally MGGA. The media will insist that it’s a “far-right”, borderline neo-Nazi party. When you dig for evidence in their assertions, though, it’s almost always a circle jerk of citing another media piece that made the same claim, without evidence.

BlueAnon types will have you believe yesterday was a repudiation of AfD because they didn’t win outright. They did, though, double their standing from the last election, and the two most-right parties (out of 7-8 parties that ran) got 50% of the vote.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:52 am to
East Germans get it. West Germans have had it easy for far too long
Posted by GerasimosNina
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:53 am to
Your first post:
quote:

It’s amazing what a totalitarian communist state does to the mind


Your second post:
quote:

Downvotes give me the impression people think I’m saying something different than my intent.




Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23011 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:55 am to
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GerasimosNina

Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2465 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:56 am to
That is insane!! East Germany wants MAGA and the idiots on the West who’ve had it easier want more government

Mind blowing
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:58 am to
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It’s now been 35 years, but that difference seems as pronounced as ever.

It’s amazing what a totalitarian communist state does to the mind.

You realize East Germany was voting AGAINST Leftists, right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131373 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:01 am to
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Lets build back the wall.
West Germany and it's protocommunists might well agree. East Germany wants no part of that.
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