Started By
Message

Tell me about starting your own business

Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:28 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6867 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:28 am
I'm working on getting an LLC setup and organizing insurance, banking, etc. . . I'm not quitting my day job until I can get this thing going, but I'm hoping it gets there one day. I'm 39 and a software developer but this business is well outside of my day job. I'm very familiar with what I will be doing, but it's been 15 years since I've done anything close to this for a paycheck.

What are your experiences? What are some things you learned the hard way? What are things I may not be expecting generically? I don't expect anything to be a cakewalk and maybe the headaches and complaints aren't any different than my day job, but I'm ready to take a risk and do something where my paycheck reflects my efforts without limitation per se.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5132 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:01 am to
Pay for an hour of a CPAs time tonight get advice on how to set up your books and possible organizational structure of your business.

Much easier to set things up correctly now than have to undo (or pay someone to undo) a mess you created without realizing in the future.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38420 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:12 am to
It would be easier to give advice if you specified what kind of business you’re referring to.

I run a moderately successful government contracting company, and if I could go back to my first year and give myself advice, it would be:

1. Reinvest as much money and assets into the company as possible to fuel growth.

2. Hire extremely slowly and fire quickly—bad hires can drain resources and slow progress.

3. Remove yourself from day-to-day operations as soon as possible. You can’t effectively grow the business if you’re stuck in the weeds.

If you create a great work environment, people won’t want to leave. Be generous with time off, remote work, and pay—but never let anyone take advantage of your generosity.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9390 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:26 am to
Good advice here ^^^

“Inspect what you expect “
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1585 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:51 am to
Unless you’ve already laid a lot of groundwork it’s usually going to grow slower than you would like or expect in the beginning. Don’t be discouraged. This is the time when you should be ironing out your processes.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6867 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:16 am to
I have a small handful of things to offer, but in general, it is general contracting. I have 3 jobs already lined up and a couple of labor teams ready to go. I also have contacts with 2 local builders that are already willing to give me more business. The work I have lined up is what I believe is manageable for a startup. Decent margins, and not a high amount of overhead. If I can grow it, even just a little, I'll incrementally go after larger stuff, but for now, I'm going to start where I can. I've got enough startup capital to get going easily, and it's what I'm willing to risk to get started. I foresee keeping reliable crews fed with enough work to keep them happy will be a challenge.

Until I get a solid work stream, I won't be hiring employees. But I 100% can appreciate that sentiment coming from where I am currently. There are so many revenue leaks with a large company and it blows my mind that some people are allowed to just exist at work.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:45 am to
Keep working your day job as long as you can.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35659 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Pay for an hour of a CPAs time


An hour will accomplish nothing and statements like this are why people bitch and moan come tax time.

Could you explain what you do in an hour?
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
1870 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:46 am to
I had a sole proprietor LLC in Louisiana for several years. It worked well in my situation (Obviously the only member of the company with no employees). Was able to significantly reduce my taxable income and establish a solo 401(k) which allowed “employer” and “employee” contributions.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20030 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:58 am to
Some people think everything is deductible.

This is false.

Legitimate business expenses only.

Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3982 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:47 pm to
Keep IP you’ve developed for your side gig separate from the IP you develop as an employee
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6542 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:14 pm to
Ditto to everything Bama said.

If you’re doing sub work with subs, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE COIs from them before they step foot on the job and before you give them a penny.

Make sure you’re named as cert holder as well, and make sure they’re licensed.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5132 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:25 pm to
Sure, walk them through filing with the secretary of state, explain basic deductions, explain that loan payments are not the same as expenses, talk about contributions and distributions, review their chart of accounts if they have accounting software, explain reconciliations, talk about financial statements and what they mean from a high level, lately I’ve been explaining why what they saw on TikTok was wrong.

I’m not holding their hand through these tasks but explaining the importance of good bookkeeping habits and best practices. An hour doesn’t give me a ton of time to get into all id like but I’ve find I can explain these concepts to people who don’t know anything about accounting.


This approach usually gets a follow up meeting or call and more often than not a new client. Feed back from these meetings is usually “thank you so much for clarifying that” or “you’ve explained to me what another accountant couldn’t”

Not taking these types of meetings right now, though.

Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6867 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:01 am to
quote:

Some people think everything is deductible.

This is false.

Legitimate business expenses only.


This got one upvote and one downvote. Anyone care to explain to me the write-offs? Reason I ask is I have a buddy that owns a business, and he is writing off damn near everything he buys including lunches that don't have anything to do with the business. We went to work on the building for another business they're opening and stopped for a 12 pack while we work, and some chicken sandwiches. He wrote those off. This is the area I'm least familiar with. I know dedicated expenses apply, but the last thing I want to do is tempt the tax man with something in the grey.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69354 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Anyone care to explain to me the write-offs


Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6867 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:29 am to
Ha. This is what comes to mind when people say write offs. It's still somewhat of a foreign concept to me, but I understand the general gist of reducing income to buy things you may or may not have bought anyways. Goal is to pay less in taxation overall. I just need to brush up on what is not a legit write-off.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20030 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

he is writing off damn near everything he buys


I guess it’s working- for now.

Tickets/golf: NO

“ 50% Deductible Expenses: Includes client meals, business travel meals, and food for in-office meetings.”

100% for office parties.

I’d keep meticulous records.


LINK
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5132 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

but I understand the general gist of reducing income to buy things you may or may not have bought anyways.


The IRS friendly definition is anything ordinary and necessary for you to run your business. Entertainment is nondeductible but I’ve seen people call it “client development” and no irs audit as of yet. Your mileage may vary.

Some fun real life examples:
1) unless you are a sex therapist or specialized doctor, sex toys and sex dolls are not deductible.
2) I don’t care if you promised an employee you’d pay for his vasectomy prior to onboarding him to your construction company, you can’t write that off.
3) the weed gummies you bought for your dog are not legitimate business expenses even if he’s on your logo and they help with anxiety.

Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24413 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

What are things I may not be expecting generically?


More pain and heartache than you planning for. I am not going to repeat the good answers already given here and more recap the journey.

We went down this path for my wife 15 years ago, but now have a business with around 50 people and offices in Texas and Oklahoma. It is going to start slow and I mean real slow. You have a job already, so keep it as you plan, but you are going to burn some cash. There are start up cost of course, and then you are going to have yearly cost with lawyers, accountants and benefits. You will need to market and advertise if you are in the General Contracting realm, which will be more costs and without knowing where you live could have some tough competition reducing your margins.

Shorter version, you are not making a living wage for some time and going to burn at lot of hours of your life.

If you make it past the first few years with some growth and look to expand with employees on staff -

1. Salary and benefits are going to matter. During the slow times when it was just you, you could digest not getting a paycheck. This is going to change when you hire other people. You cannot miss paying people, it will become one of your most important tasks as a business owner.

2. You are going to want a revolving line of credit with a financial institution. This is important to pay your bills and people on time. Checks coming in from clients will always be feast or famine, but payroll and bills will always be there. No matter what your line of credit limit is, you are going to hit it, probably several times.

3. Benefit pain is going to be an annual event. Insurance is always changing and you will probably be changing insurance companies every 3-5 years.

4. You are going to be involved in some legal action at some point, either receiving or giving. It come from a client, a sub, a prime, or an employee; it is going to happen. You will have to decide how much fight you want, as only lawyers win.

5. Hiring and firing employees is not easy. Prepare to work hard finding the right candidate and even in "at will" states prepare for legal action when you let go of some employees. If they push legal action, you will end up spending money on legal fees, even if their fabricated claims are false.

6. Prepare for unexpected disruption in what you are offering. We had a key employee get killed out in the field. You will want to make sure there is some form of redundancy.

7. Office space comes with an expense and time finding the right place. Don't do it, until you are at a point you need it.

8. Technology. You are a software developer now, so you probably can breeze through this part. Find that all in one solution though for payroll, billing, timesheet, etc., even if it costs more. The time and effort it takes to setup the integrations between differing systems might not be worth the cost savings. Leverage cloud offerings as well, to prevent aging infrastructure in your home or office.

9. Try to not be HR. Hire a person or company to handle those tasks.

Seems like a bunch of negative, but in the end it is worth it. If I can ever get her to sell this off, retirement here I come.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted by GhostofJimMorrison
Member since Feb 2025
96 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 7:50 am to
Put a shitload of time into asking questions and listening. To experienced builders on how you will or could frick up.

Simplify and streamline, the less you offer in the way of "custom". The better off you'll be. Build the same house, same layout, same materials with the same crew like your a factory assembly line. The customer will suffer analysis paralysis and make your job drag out for years. Also have storage nearby, for the un used over order materials. The typical builder lets 10% of materials just burn in the sun on the job site.

first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram