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Retirement planning advice

Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:43 pm
Background:
I am currently 43. Wife is 41. We each have just over 200k in our 401k’s. When we retire my projections have us an each around 2mil at the age of 65. We each also will qualify for a pension when we retire. Mine will be just over 4K a month and hers will be just over 5k a month. We have 50k in a HYSA and we have just over 100k in my fun investment account which has an annual return rate of 17.1% currently.
Now the question:
At what point do we start investing in rental properties if ever? I just don’t know because I feel we are in a great spot and I can see getting same ROA from the money being spent to add in out stock portfolio than on rental properties without the headache. What do you guys recommend and why?

Edited to add:
Our house will be paid off in 15 years but interest rate is below 3 so no desire to pay off earlier
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21382 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:47 pm to
I don't have an answer for your questions but just here to say you have done a very nice job getting to this point. Well done..


What is your annual income? That would be a factor in acquiring real estate i would think
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
51956 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:52 pm to
Based on where you are right now, what's the need for rental properties?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37499 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:18 pm to
Exactly. Why go to the hassle when you’ll have enough in money and pensions to fund your retirement?
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3379 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:37 pm to
I’m 56, about to be in the can retire if I want to phase. Bought a Lakehouse once our house was paid off a few years ago. We decided to put it on VRBO just to offset expenses/taxes etc. so far it’s been a good decision. My hope is it can be a mailbox money maker in retirement, have an asset that if unexpected emergency comes along can sell it if have to. We get families as renters not party people. Most of my planned retirement is 401k/IRA etc, so nice to have some diversity and way to make money outside of market fluctuations.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4266 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:07 pm to
I guess it depends on your temperament and how much you like hassles.
Lots of posters,on here are big on rental properties but the anecdotal stories I hear from people that have or have had rentals has me determined
I want nothing to do with them.
If someone gave me one ,I’d sell it asap.
With your retirement income,there’s no frickin way.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130118 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:16 pm to
Wby the Hassle, your numbers suggest you will be very wealthy in your 60s.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:43 pm to
Our annual income is 140k but will increase 3-5% a year. Thanks for the replies. I was leaning to no but everyone made it seem like I was missing out on an income stream. I guess I was getting FOMO
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:46 pm to
Wanted to add that we have zero debt except the house payments. We currently don't have car payments and both are cars are around 100k miles so we started about 6 months ago throwing 500 into another savings account to save to buy a car cash in 4ish years and will continue for another 4 years after that to buy the second in cash
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6216 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:08 pm to
Dude. Y’all will be bringing in like $20k/month at retirement with zero debt.

You’re doing great.
Here’s to a healthy 25 yrs.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25353 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

age of 65.


Dont wait this long man, life is short.

Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17331 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Dont wait this long man, life is short.


My dad is finally hanging it up at 71 this week. Going to drive to Corpus and move him back to Youngsville on Friday.

I hope to be scaling back at 55 and see where I’m at. Probably always do something but more part time.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25353 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

My dad is finally hanging it up at 71 this week. Going to drive to Corpus and move him back to Youngsville on Friday


Dad!!

quote:

I hope to be scaling back at 55 and see where I’m at.


We all get hung up on investing but take a look at your debt and when you want to pull the pin. Successful retirement = no big monthly payments (house, cars, kids)

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Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14359 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:19 pm to
Unless you like kicking out single moms who can’t pay rent, avoid rentals.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5272 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:27 pm to
If you have a hard on for real estate, buy something you will use in a few years. Rent it out for now. Personally, i would not want the headache, but you may be okay with it or be willing o hire a management company.

Just a thought.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2614 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:05 pm to
I'd fully fund tax advantaged accounts before diving into rentals or playing more in your taxable brokerage.

Do you even have Roth IRAs? Do you max both 401ks? Is your health plan HSA eligible?

I had a rental and it was a nuisance I don't look to repeat.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18442 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:11 pm to
I don’t think rentals are required for everyone to accumulate wealth.

If you are handy, and like real estate then maybe it’s a line of income for you, but ultimately you are dealing with people so it is not necessarily easy.

My brother-in-law ONLY does commercial properties. He’s a successful real estate business owner. I think if duplexes or houses or apartments were easy ways to make money, he would have some.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7062 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
Good job!

I am 55 and looking at approx 14k per month and you are killing that. I have 2 rentals that have been good for me they both networks about 1500 per month. I am not sure I want to keep them when I get to 70????

Congratulations
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4169 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:38 pm to
Thanks. How much time a month would you estimate the rentals take up? Also what do you average a year in maintained and what’s the ROI? Also what’s the appreciated on it?
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7062 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:12 pm to

quote:

tigerbacon


Honestly less than 5 hrs each. Both have long standing tenants and have been super easy. I do the small stuff and if something like hvac goes out I just call a person I have worked with and trust.
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