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Investing In Rural Land
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:42 am
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:42 am
What’s the boards thoughts on buying rural land as a long term investment?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:56 am to GeauxTime9
Unless you have a use for it as a hobby (hunting) or plan to turn it into something that makes money (pasture) I’d say it wouldn’t be a very good investment. If you loan the money, your wasting money on interest for years for no reason, if you pay cash you are holding up cash for no reason, you’ll pay property taxes no matter what.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:22 am to Tigerfan14
Like anything, it all depends on the deal you get. The good deals on rural land tend to be on property that never makes it to the market. Owner passes away, Kids live elsewhere, inherit land and get an offer and accept it for convenience. Or aging person that hears a number thrown out and jumps on it not really knowing the true value of the land. Big factor on rural land is is it eligible for any subsidies like crp or wrp. Can offset cost while in program.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:59 am to GeauxTime9
Many variables prevent an easy answer. What are growth aspects for the area? What percent of your assets would be required? How long can you leave your money tied up?
I can say that I have personally made filthy returns on rural land. But I am pretty active in real estate. The deals can be very lucrative. For every NVDA,story in the stock market, there are similar winners in real estate. There are losers as well. The liquidity concerns are real. There aren't many good answers for a situation where you want to sell a piece of land that is hard to sell.
For clarity, my experiences around buying land, turning it into building lots, and either building on the lots or selling them as !ots. If you are in a reasonably strong growth area, the better play might be investing in new residential construction. Buy a lot, hire a builder, build house, sell house. This is a smaller window of time, and easier to predict the outcome compared to buying rural land.
I can say that I have personally made filthy returns on rural land. But I am pretty active in real estate. The deals can be very lucrative. For every NVDA,story in the stock market, there are similar winners in real estate. There are losers as well. The liquidity concerns are real. There aren't many good answers for a situation where you want to sell a piece of land that is hard to sell.
For clarity, my experiences around buying land, turning it into building lots, and either building on the lots or selling them as !ots. If you are in a reasonably strong growth area, the better play might be investing in new residential construction. Buy a lot, hire a builder, build house, sell house. This is a smaller window of time, and easier to predict the outcome compared to buying rural land.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:09 am to Tigerfan14
You do not have enough info to say this. Rural land is a vague term. Just how rural? What are the prospects for growth in the area? Are there infrastructure changes ( ie new highway) planned for the area? There are many things that change the value of land. I have seen $1000/acre turn into $100,000/ acre. I am not trying to make it sound easy, nor am I recommending anything to the OP. Just saying we don't have enough info.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:33 am to GeauxTime9
I have a good friend who came into some cash after selling his company and had the dream of owning a large parcel of land.
This isn’t your average guy. Really sharp and has done very well for himself. Did his research, thought about timber rights, etc.
An avid outdoorsman; he bought 1,000+ acres in rural South GA and put a nice log home and guesthouse plus improved the roads, installed fields for crops, the whole nine yards. I had the occasion to visit on multiple occasions and was even hired to guide some hunters from time to time.
He owned the property for almost 20 years and parted ways with it 3 years ago.
I asked him if he would do it again. He confided that it was a lot more work and more costly to maintain than he planned for. It also generated far less money than he expected. He said he made some amazing memories and met some great people. To that end; he said he’d of been much better off investing the money in the market and just booking a trip now and again to get his hunting fix.
He said lumber prices are awful and the timber proved difficult to sell because he wasn’t very close to the mill.
Land values while having gone up aren’t keeping up with the market.
So he stopped short of saying he regretted it; but, certainly seems happy to have ownership behind him.
This isn’t your average guy. Really sharp and has done very well for himself. Did his research, thought about timber rights, etc.
An avid outdoorsman; he bought 1,000+ acres in rural South GA and put a nice log home and guesthouse plus improved the roads, installed fields for crops, the whole nine yards. I had the occasion to visit on multiple occasions and was even hired to guide some hunters from time to time.
He owned the property for almost 20 years and parted ways with it 3 years ago.
I asked him if he would do it again. He confided that it was a lot more work and more costly to maintain than he planned for. It also generated far less money than he expected. He said he made some amazing memories and met some great people. To that end; he said he’d of been much better off investing the money in the market and just booking a trip now and again to get his hunting fix.
He said lumber prices are awful and the timber proved difficult to sell because he wasn’t very close to the mill.
Land values while having gone up aren’t keeping up with the market.
So he stopped short of saying he regretted it; but, certainly seems happy to have ownership behind him.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:00 am to wiltznucs
Land values while having gone up aren’t keeping up with the market.
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Location matters. Land value in many places has outpaced the market.
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Location matters. Land value in many places has outpaced the market.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:01 am to GeauxTime9
I bought about 50 acres bordering a national forest, prime hunting but never can make the time for it. No trailer or camp on it but that was the original plan, now it sits unused
I will say I get almost weekly offers on it, although they’re national companies lowballing
I will say I get almost weekly offers on it, although they’re national companies lowballing
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:36 am to KWL85
I’m gonna assume he’s asking a general question and doesn’t have some potential diamond in the rough, future metropolitan area, in mind.
That’s possible, but about as likely as throwing 1k in some stock and it turning into the next Nvidia/Amazon. My point is that if you are looking at it from a purely investment standpoint, it’s not a good idea unless you have a plan for cash flow. It’s just real expensive lottery ticket.
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I have seen $1000/acre turn into $100,000/ acre
That’s possible, but about as likely as throwing 1k in some stock and it turning into the next Nvidia/Amazon. My point is that if you are looking at it from a purely investment standpoint, it’s not a good idea unless you have a plan for cash flow. It’s just real expensive lottery ticket.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 3:08 pm to GeauxTime9
Good hunting property goes up every year here in Cenla. What was priced at $1,000 an acre 10 years ago is now $3,000 an acre. It all depends on quality of the hunting or fishing if that’s what you’re into.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:37 pm to PinevilleTiger
Bought 60 acres last year cash for $1,500 an acre. Getting offers now for $2,000 an acre.
I simply wanted a place to hunt exotics in Texas when it wasn't whitetail season & something to hedge against the market.
I personally think it's a cool investment, especially if you enjoy the outdoors. First thing I do when I get to work each morning is get a cup of coffee and see what animals visited our property the night before.
I simply wanted a place to hunt exotics in Texas when it wasn't whitetail season & something to hedge against the market.
I personally think it's a cool investment, especially if you enjoy the outdoors. First thing I do when I get to work each morning is get a cup of coffee and see what animals visited our property the night before.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:17 am to PinevilleTiger
Well I know of a piece in Jefferson cty MS that was for sale when the rec land market was really popping off 15+ yrs ago. $3250/ac. Sold fast. Probably could get $4k for it now. Appreciated 30% in 15-20 years. Positive, but paltry, especially after taxes.
Plenty of anecdotes out there.
Plenty of anecdotes out there.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:51 am to GeauxTime9
My sister and I inherited some in North Louisiana recently, it's a hay field so we sell the hay to a local cattle rancher.
It's enough to cover the taxes and put about $500.00 a year in our pockets.
Not Much
We could sell it but you have to find someone with a spare 400K laying around to buy a pasture that's not going to be a very good ROI.
It's enough to cover the taxes and put about $500.00 a year in our pockets.
Not Much
We could sell it but you have to find someone with a spare 400K laying around to buy a pasture that's not going to be a very good ROI.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:22 pm to GeauxTime9
I wouldn’t buy any land without a plan for development or improvement. Rural or otherwise.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:52 am to Decisions
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I wouldn’t buy any land without a plan for development or improvement. Rural or otherwise.
Agreed.. Need to understand the market as well.
There's alot more individuals that can afford a ~$150/200k property, not too many who can afford a $400k property.
Also, there a big difference in land value when it has electricity on it.. If OP is serious, I would suggest looking for a plot of land that is 1/2/3 poles away from power.. Simple ~$10k investment will then likely yield an addtional $1k an acre.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:38 am to GeauxTime9
Great investment! It is in high demand and they aren't making anymore of it!
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