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I'm going to get roasted for this, but anyone else hoping Trump/Elon get more precise?
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:01 pm
In general I am for downsizing the federal workforce, but they're just going after the common man in the government. I want them to go after the people further up the hierarchy.
I am a former federal employee and I saw a lot of waste and dumb decision making in my time. The people who are responsible for these issues are the hard core career feds 15+ years in. The ones who are responsible for contracting out work, setting initiatives, running entire branches of employees. Blanket removal of the probationary workforce is fine, but 99% of the troublemakers are still in there. All they did was get rid of the people fresh out of college.
Believe it or not there is an annual review/ rating for each employee. Supervisors are not allowed to give everyone top reviews, they have to be "ranked" more or less. To me, it would serve them better go after anyone who has a low appraisal or on a PIP (yes that exists).
I am hoping they root at the real rot in our government, the people who are more entrenched/protected and actually make the decisions on where the money gets spent.
I am a former federal employee and I saw a lot of waste and dumb decision making in my time. The people who are responsible for these issues are the hard core career feds 15+ years in. The ones who are responsible for contracting out work, setting initiatives, running entire branches of employees. Blanket removal of the probationary workforce is fine, but 99% of the troublemakers are still in there. All they did was get rid of the people fresh out of college.
Believe it or not there is an annual review/ rating for each employee. Supervisors are not allowed to give everyone top reviews, they have to be "ranked" more or less. To me, it would serve them better go after anyone who has a low appraisal or on a PIP (yes that exists).
I am hoping they root at the real rot in our government, the people who are more entrenched/protected and actually make the decisions on where the money gets spent.
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:05 pm to The Baker
I get your point but can they fire lazy federal workers now or will they just transfer them elsewhere like they always have?
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:14 pm to The Baker
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but they're just going after the common man in the governmen
No such thing as the common man in government. They are there to move up the food chain and carve out a larger and larger slice of the public pie. It’s all about making the right connections, and kissing the right arse to position themselves for the sweet gigs the real “common man” has zero fricking chance at ever landing. From the rest of us common men and women out here busting our arse in the real world and not enriching ourselves on the govt teat, the common man in govt can get fricked. Go find a real job like the rest of us. I can assure you the world will keep spinning without leaches enriching themselves with public grants to shove marbles up cats asses or to put on some deviant lgbtq whatever play in some hellhole on the other side of the globe.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:16 pm to The Baker
Trump wants to close the entire Department of Education. That’s pretty dang precise. An entire cabinet level agency…gone.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:22 pm to The Baker
Agreed. Probationary firing is a blunt tool that eliminates a relatively cheap portion of the workforce. Offering early retirement packages to the 15% or so of gov workers currently eligible to retire would be a larger cost savings (over time) and partially take care of the ingrained deep staters.
I also think that some agencies need different levels of cuts than others. Some after all do have useful functions (air traffic control, nuclear energy, etc) while others like USAID and the like could use 90-100% cuts. Across the board one size fits all cuts are not necessary or efficient.
But the current approach is probably better than a four year study before any action that would’ve been the norm until now!
I also think that some agencies need different levels of cuts than others. Some after all do have useful functions (air traffic control, nuclear energy, etc) while others like USAID and the like could use 90-100% cuts. Across the board one size fits all cuts are not necessary or efficient.
But the current approach is probably better than a four year study before any action that would’ve been the norm until now!
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:23 pm to The Baker
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Blanket removal of the probationary workforce is fine, but 99% of the troublemakers are still in there. All they did was get rid of the people fresh out of college.
Completely right
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:25 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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No such thing as the common man in government. They are there to move up the food chain and carve out a larger and larger slice of the public pie. It’s all about making the right connections, and kissing the right arse to position themselves for the sweet gigs the real “common man” has zero fricking chance at ever landing. From the rest of us common men and women out here busting our arse in the real world and not enriching ourselves on the govt teat, the common man in govt can get fricked. Go find a real job like the rest of us. I can assure you the world will keep spinning without leaches enriching themselves with public grants to shove marbles up cats asses or to put on some deviant lgbtq whatever play in some hellhole on the other side of the globe.
You know nothing about how govt employment works. Also, congrats on helping the Democrats in 2026.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:28 pm to The Baker
It’s the first Month. Let them Cook.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:36 pm to The Baker
It would help if they started providing records of the government waste in a commission style report. They could issue small reports from treasury or whatever office is appropriate. The information flow needs to start coming out in an official capacity sometime soon.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:38 pm to The Baker
The firing of D's & hiring of R's, no matter the hierarchy or how expansive, is applauded but temporary, as that could theoretically be reversed in the next party-change election. Even handcuffing their funding or dismantling their abusive agencies or deporting their voter pool could make a comeback eventually.
I'm looking for more permanent changes. Stuff like federal mandatory Voter ID/fraud laws or getting 2 new young Supreme Court Justices on board & limiting the expansion of the Court. Congressional term limits would be yuge, too.
I'm looking for more permanent changes. Stuff like federal mandatory Voter ID/fraud laws or getting 2 new young Supreme Court Justices on board & limiting the expansion of the Court. Congressional term limits would be yuge, too.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:39 pm to FlySaint
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But the current approach is probably better than a four year study before any action that would’ve been the norm until now!
The current approach is going to produce millions of additional votes in the midterms for Democrats. When that happens, you'll be saying 'they should have slow rolled this'.
Retire, not fire. That is the way to do this.
This slash and burn approach is not being done against 'employees', it's being done against voters, and those voters have families. And friends. When they are hurt, the people in their orbits are hurt. They're not going to vote for the people that hurt them. This is a pretty simple calculus.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:43 pm to POTUS2024
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POTUS2024
Timidity in the face of assholes has served us so well in the past.
Most are from DC. We are losing none of those votes.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:45 pm to RohanGonzales
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Most are from DC. We are losing none of those votes.
Bingo.
The medicine may be painful, but the patient requires it.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:47 pm to RohanGonzales
you are correct there are reasons why Washington DC area votes over 90 percent Democrat on election nights. Cut the fat it won't make a big difference with these people voting.
This post was edited on 2/15/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:07 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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No such thing as the common man in government. They are there to move up the food chain and carve out a larger and larger slice of the public pie. It’s all about making the right connections, and kissing the right arse to position themselves for the sweet gigs the real “common man” has zero fricking chance at ever landing.
The government is full of veterans. Not everyone who works for them is rich.
The bloodlust on here is strange. If you want to be angry then be mad at Congress. They appropriate all of this money and the people appointed to high positions are the ones carrying out the matching orders.
Joe six pack doesn't have a say in budgeting.
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:14 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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No such thing as the common man in government. They are there to move up the food chain and carve out a larger and larger slice of the public pie.
This is simply not true and is very reductive thinking. Sure you have career bureaucrats buried in high-up positions in DC, but your average government employee is just a regular person looking to make a living and support their family.
As long as there are people like you that focus on the wrong enemy, those career bureaucrats will remain safe and cozy with the "padding" around them being the expendable regular people getting axed and facing ire instead of them. They love people like you that think everyone on the bottom levels doing the actual work is the enemy, while they sit on their thrones safely watching eating popcorn.
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From the rest of us common men and women out here busting our arse in the real world and not enriching ourselves on the govt teat, the common man in govt can get fricked. Go find a real job like the rest of us.
I work for the "FedGov" and am very much a common man with a family to support... US Marshal to be exact. Is that a "real job" or not? Is it a "real job" when I put my life on the line every day to protect ungrateful shits like you and put bad people away to protect your community and family? Or am I just "sucking at the government teat?"
Pray you never need my services, friend.
This post was edited on 2/15/25 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 12:52 am to The Baker
You seem like a good man.
Sometimes we get hooked.
I’m sorry you are collateral damage. Reapply. Sometimes bad shite happens to good people.
This isnt a joke. We are 35 trillion in debt. That’s real.
I keep hearing we are the richest county on earth.
Why am I so concerned?
Why is the richest guy on earth beholden to all these other people.
We are not.
Let’s go to war. We pay these people to not jack with us.
Most if them hate us anyway. frick em.
A few years of us sitting quietly would do wonders.
Sometimes we get hooked.
I’m sorry you are collateral damage. Reapply. Sometimes bad shite happens to good people.
This isnt a joke. We are 35 trillion in debt. That’s real.
I keep hearing we are the richest county on earth.
Why am I so concerned?
Why is the richest guy on earth beholden to all these other people.
We are not.
Let’s go to war. We pay these people to not jack with us.
Most if them hate us anyway. frick em.
A few years of us sitting quietly would do wonders.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:20 am to Slevin7
Trump/Elon are going after top and lower echelon workers. There are just a hell of a lot more lower echelon. The faster the better. They are doing what the majority of the American voters want. Dems are raging against the will of the people and it will scorch them in the next election and beyond. Dems have no answer to Trump. He is like a man possessed and the dems can blame themselves for tormenting him and his family.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:38 am to The Baker
I dont trust reviews bc Marxists will use their power to give bad reviews on Patriots.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 1:43 am to POTUS2024
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When that happens, you'll be saying 'they should have slow rolled this'.
Since when has grace been shown to those in industries loathes by the left?
Get the kill shot or lose your job!
Learn to code!
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