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Omar Speights with a playoff sack and forced fumble

Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19048 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:24 pm
This guy was hot garbage at LSU.

Can we blame House for this guy too?
Posted by TigerDCC11
Member since May 2007
1188 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:29 pm to
Yes
Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
413 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:31 pm to
Rumor has it, he’s still getting dusted by the slowest, most unathletic TE in TAMU history. Fault House for whatever you want, but he can’t be blamed for that one.
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5909 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:32 pm to
House ruined his year here. That defense should never have gotten to that point.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5249 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:44 pm to
The culture must’ve been rancid
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
57542 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:47 pm to
Add him to the wasted talent list with Jayden Daniels
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2143 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:48 pm to
Yeah.. His specialty was supposed to be linebackers too. That guy legitimately cost us an all time great season and a national title. He should be thrown in prison for coaching malpractice.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115112 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:50 pm to
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Rumor has it, he’s still getting dusted by the slowest, most unathletic TE in TAMU history. Fault House for whatever you want, but he can’t be blamed for that one.


I’d argue you can very much still blame house for that, given he’s not having issues getting dusted by big time NFL athletes, he either was not coached well enough to reach his potential here, or our coaches did not know how to put him in a position to succeed

He didn’t grow 2 extra legs or shave off a second of his 40 the last calendar year. The difference is coaching and role.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10567 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Can we blame House for this guy too?


2022 - First team all PAC 12
2023 - coached by Matt House
2024 - starting as a rookie on a playoff team

Yeah it’s pretty safe to say he sucked because he was coached by the biggest piece of shite to ever hit an LSU staff
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282585 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:23 pm to
Yep, its on House. Wasted a hell of a talent.

He's been crazy successful everywhere but here.
Posted by BradHawpe
Member since Jan 2025
292 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:35 pm to
2023
2006
2011
2012

will all go down as what could have been. We will forever be sick.
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1481 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:46 pm to
I'm sorry, but when a guy gets walked by by every sec rb, can't tackle guys in the box, and can't cover... he was a bust for us. 1 on 1 stuff can't be blamed on a dc. He had 1-2, okay games late for us, which maybe meant it took him time to adjst to the speed and physicality difference. But he was horrible. Ole miss game was like he bet for the rebels. Miss st rb hitting corner td run when speights thought he had an angle was his welcome to the big boi league moment.

Good for him by making a team, earning a starting spot, and performing. I'm blown away by it, bc I watched him every sec game. He was horrible. I thought he'd solidify the defense for us when we got him too.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 4:47 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29242 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, but when a guy gets walked by by every sec rb, can't tackle guys in the box, and can't cover... he was a bust for us. 1 on 1 stuff can't be blamed on a dc. He had 1-2, okay games late for us, which maybe meant it took him time to adjst to the speed and physicality difference. But he was horrible. Ole miss game was like he bet for the rebels. Miss st rb hitting corner td run when speights thought he had an angle was his welcome to the big boi league moment. Good for him by making a team, earning a starting spot, and performing. I'm blown away by it, bc I watched him every sec game. He was horrible. I thought he'd solidify the defense for us when we got him too.



If the defensive coordinator responsible for teaching his defensive schemes sucks at his job then every is 2 steps slower. Because they don’t have a clue what they’re supposed to be doing. He didn’t just magically get more athletic once he got to the NFL. He had a competent coach that actually taught him the scheme he was running.


That also explains why Blake Baker was able to take a defense last year that finished one of the worst in the country and turned it into a mediocre defense this year with a less talented defensive line.

Speights wasn’t a bust. House didn’t give enough of a frick to teach him wtf to do
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1481 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 5:23 pm to
It definitely didn't help the kid that house was the dc... just saying physically he struggled in the sec. Period.

Theres been other stories of guys being very average or role players for us, and finding long stints in the nfl. Dillon Gordon from blocking te to solid nfl ot, Danny mccray had solid nfl tenure, etc.

I'm just blown away same guy who was a bust here is a solid nfl player. Good for him, earned it
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29242 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:12 pm to
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just saying physically he struggled in the sec. Period.



I don’t think he struggled physically. If you don’t know if you’ve got the A gap or the B gap then you’re going to be slow getting to either of them. If you don’t if you’ve got the TE or the RB in pass coverage then you’re going to be toast before you figure it out.

If literally anyone on the defense looked good last year then maybe I could agree with you. But sit there with a straight face and name me one player that looked like they could play in the nfl on defense the last year under house? He’s not a bust. He was failed by House.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28359 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

House ruined his year here. That defense should never have gotten to that point.

House should have made sure they had enough depth defensively and help Harold Perkins with his intelligence.

He also, should have been able to cure Greg Brooks’ cancer and stop Zy Alexander’s injury that cost him the season.

When you lose your top 2 players on the backend of the defense and lose to the draft, the other safety and a corner, from a team piecemealed together by bailing wire and duct tape, you will not be good. Look no further than Detroit last night.

You guys love to just want to fire everyone but how do you explain that same Matt House just the season before had LSU at 15 in defensive efficiency in all of D1?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25296 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Yeah it’s pretty safe to say he sucked because he was coached by the biggest piece of shite to ever hit an LSU staff

Maybe he was hurt because as God-awful as House was in 2023, Speights stuck out for how bad he was even when he was in position to make plays. He just looked awful in every way including his effort. The whole board thought so. When Weeks started playing more, everyone rejoiced. So I can only imagine that his injury lingered on and House was too stupid to take him out of the game and let healthier, younger players get some playing time.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45418 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:21 pm to
Like I said a week or 2 ago when a similar thread popped up, part of Speights’ issue was he was hurt the first half of the season. Missed a couple full games and parts of others. Don’t know that he was ever really healthy at LSU even when he got back into the lineup.

Not taking up for House, just saying.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6043 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:25 pm to
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The culture must’ve been rancid


This. Still working through it.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54709 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 7:00 am to
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Speights wasn’t a bust. House didn’t give enough of a frick to teach him wtf to do


You will never be able to convince me that House wasn't taking bets and losing on purpose. Dude was on the take. Had to be.
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