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Nobody in Louisiana knows what public and private waters are? WTF

Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:26 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:26 pm
I swear to God, Louisiana politics can frick up anything. I am watching these Todd Mason videos and this shite is ridiculous and frick Lafouche parish with an alligator dick. Obviously all federal funding for anything should be cut to that shite hole. If it’s all private, then private money should pay for everything motherfrickers.

The feds clearly just need to take control of this like they did the did the New Orleans school district because clearly this shite is equally corrupt . This is about bumblebee bayou

LINKhttps://youtu.be/nQrbdwTW0GQ?si=qhHnw_kfLg6psDut


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This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 11:47 pm
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5258 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:02 pm to
All about the Benjamins
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8849 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:40 pm to
I'd make it simple. If it's not a pond or lake on private property it's public water. End of discussion. If you can't put a property corner in it because the water is too deep you don't own it.

So if you once owned 1000 acres and 500 is now covered in water that touches public water, it becomes public water.

If the levee broke and the Mississippi River rerouted itself through your property, you don't own that part of the river. That's what needs to be done.

As for property tax you get taxed on land owned, not water.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1142 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:46 pm to
How is it corrupt?

ETA: I should know better than to ask questions on here. It’s too easy for people to downvote instead of providing an explanation.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 6:59 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35232 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:54 pm to
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How is it corrupt?



Because you have certain land owners that say “ we gon mehk anazample outta you breh”. And they know their cousins best friend is greensjeans .

Then you have people that can traipse all over someone else’s land and nothing will be done.

It causes ill feelings and in some cases very tense situations.

No one of final authority wants to deal with it and that is corrupt.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1142 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Because you have certain land owners that say “ we gon mehk anazample outta you breh”. And they know their cousins best friend is greensjeans .


Has something happened to Todd that I don’t know about?

Louisiana’s situation is difficult because of the land loss, but it’s clear that navigable waterways are public. If Todd was indeed in a navigable waterway, then nothing will happen to him. I’m sure if something did happen to him, he would have posted about it immediately because the last two videos he posted got him more views than all his others combined.

This looks more like a case of a hot headed individual getting caught on camera, trying to strong arm Todd. Todd made it into a big deal for views.

Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13322 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:10 pm to
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So if you once owned 1000 acres and 500 is now covered in water that touches public water, it becomes public water.


Am I relieved of tax liability? What about a left behind piling you run into with your glitter boat with the hot foot?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8849 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Am I relieved of tax liability?


I'd say yes.

quote:

What about a left behind piling you run into with your glitter boat with the hot foot?


How many well heads are sticking up out in gulf or the bay? Oil companies aren't liable if you hit them so you wouldn't be either.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
936 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Am I relieved of tax liability? What about a left behind piling you run into with your glitter boat with the hot foot?


Not mine anymore is my take on that.
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51231 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:55 pm to
I hate when those inbred nutria eating tards come up to Toledo or deer hunt up here. Sad people.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2936 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:56 pm to
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but it’s clear that navigable waterways are public


What are defining as navigable waterways in Louisiana? Is the definition based on Louisiana law, referencing law from other states, or based on "If I can drive a boat on it, it's navigable"?

Just because it has standing water, regardless of depth, doesn't mean it's navigable in accordance with the law.

Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
84 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:04 pm to
Yes you are not liable.
A. An owner, lessee, or occupant of premises owes no duty of care to keep such premises safe for entry or use by others for hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, sightseeing, or boating or to give warning of any hazardous conditions, use of, structure, or activities on such premises to persons entering for such purposes, whether the hazardous condition or instrumentality causing the harm is one normally encountered in the true outdoors or one created by the placement of structures or conduct of commercial activities on the premises. If such an owner, lessee, or occupant gives permission to another to enter the premises for such recreational purposes he does not thereby extend any assurance that the premises are safe for such purposes or constitute the person to whom permission is granted one to whom a duty of care is owed, or assume responsibility for or incur liability for any injury to persons or property caused by any act of person to whom permission is granted.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8849 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:52 pm to
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What are defining as navigable waterways in Louisiana?


If it was up to me, if it's not surrounded by land and you can pass a boat in it, it's navigable.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28696 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:10 pm to
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As for property tax you get taxed on land owned, not water


False. I pay taxes on the one acre under a navigable canal.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:21 pm to
If I can figure out who to post a link to his videos here. Todd was fishing in some bayou near the rigolets and these pos called the cops on him saying the water (8 foot deep) was their property. I thought that’s was contrary to federal law, but I’m just a fricking lawyer from LSU so what do I know?.

But apparently that’s not the law in Louisiana. He specifically mentioned that Plaquemine’s parish actively targets and goes after fisherman. CCA, RFA and all the boating and equipment manufacturers should start a complete boycott of any seafood or shite out of that parish until Louisiana seafood requires a Plaquemines free sticker. frick those mfers.

Then he is confronted about some very nice sheriffs office because the pieces of shite made a complaint and they basically admit nobody understands the fricking law or knows what’s public private anymore because Louisiana is fricked it up so bad
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:36 pm to
It’s bumblebee bayou apparently here is follow up video.

Does Louisiana not have a right to fish law?

Masson questioned by St Tammy Police
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10579 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:33 am to
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Just because it has standing water, regardless of depth, doesn't mean it's navigable in accordance with the law.


If it is not landlocked, why wouldn't it be? Not to mention it being tidal. Erosion/loss of marsh land is going to happen. What would you suggest be the alternative?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8849 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 5:24 am to
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False. I pay taxes on the one acre under a navigable canal.


I was saying that's how it should be.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2936 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:21 am to
Ok so we're going with the "in my opinion" and not coming here with information on the law.

Reference Material

The link is to some cases and verdicts to help folks understand more with it. Before the erosion you couldn't fish/hunt there, so why is it such a big deal after the erosion? This argument boils into people saying "just cause" so often without actually being informed or doing research. A lot of these places give memberships, pay a membership. A 50 dollar fishing license does not give someone trespassing rights in our state.

The fact of the matter is the government messed this land up with a huge man made ecological disaster that is the river levee and they have never made recompense. They do however keep collecting tax money on the land these folks own.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 6:22 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32566 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:28 am to
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And they know their cousins best friend is greensjeans
in a lot of parishes green jeans can't write trespass tickets.


but a case in point is say a place like bay denise which is slowly converting from open water to solid land - the family that owned that open water for generations now owns the land.

if people were paying property taxes on that "land" for eons what do you do - give them their money back with interest.
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