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Trump declares a unilateral change to the Constitution

Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23001 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:18 am
Imagine the complete freakout if he announced what Biden just did and the thread title was a headline.

It is seriously scary and depressing how all pretenses of covering this administration honestly have been thrown out the window.


This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 11:21 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18294 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:21 am to
Hmmmm. I'm no expert, but what he describes isn't the process for amending the Constitution.
Posted by MBGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2013
1045 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:23 am to
It is stunning that even one person can support the democratic party at this point.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65855 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:24 am to
Please, Joe, leave now and take your handlers with you
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7511 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:25 am to
Aren't we already guaranteed rights and protections under the law regardless of their sex?
Posted by EYE_on_LSU
San Marcos, TX
Member since Jul 2018
346 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:26 am to
Political stunt. The President cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

PERIOD

He is the worst United States President EVER.

PERIOD
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18093 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Hmmmm. I'm no expert, but what he describes isn't the process for amending the Constitution.


I think this ratification was voted on by the states back in the 70s or something.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42883 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:27 am to
quote:

National Archives, which is responsible for publishing amendments to the Constitution, immediately indicated it had no plans to follow Biden’s lead.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25897 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I think this ratification was voted on by the states back in the 70s or something.



Yeah that's what the court battle is going to be over most likely. Some states ratified decades ago and Virginia was the last one needed to hit 3/4ths but they didn't ratify until just a few years ago. Also some states later rescinded their ratifications. This is very unlikely to survive, imo.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75739 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:32 am to
It actually pretty interesting

The Amendment was put forth in the 70s. Virginia ratified the amendment in 2020. Became the 38th state to do so.

But prior to Virginia ratifying it a few states’s ratifications have been withdrawn or timed out.

But there is nothing in the constitution about whether a state can put a timer on their ratification or withdraw it.

So basically this will go to the SCOTUS on those grounds.


On one hand: it makes perfect sense that you should be able to withdraw ratification before an amendment is ratified.

On the other hand: that’s not in the constitution. Some scholars argue that the founders didn’t want states to be able to go back on their decisions.

I think ultimately the Court would rule this hasn’t been amended. But it is not Biden amending the constitution unilaterally.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 11:37 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25359 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:38 am to
"President Biden Declares"


All I can think of is Michael Scott yelling "I declare bankruptcy!"
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23001 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:40 am to
quote:

I think ultimately the Court would rule this hasn’t been amended. But it is not Biden amending the constitution unilaterally.

And Trump didn’t lead a coup, but this is not about reality.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 12:20 pm to
There currently is No 28th Amendment..
It's a position (#28) that is being fought for, by several different progressive backers. None of which have a snowballs chance in hell.
And neither does this. Because some of the backing for it, has been withdrawn.

However. If you look below the surface. Here's the dem strategy. To bring it up in court whether there is a deadline or time limit on a proposal to create a new constitutional amendment. Always keep in mind that the DNC plays The Long Game.
They are wanting to have a ruling that says something they push for now, can pass into law 50+ years from now.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54479 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 12:54 pm to
Hasn't this been the law of the land for quite some time now?

ETA: It's the Equal Protection clause of the 14th amendment.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:13 pm to
States can withdraw their ratification votes before something becomes official. This was specifically brought up during our founding as some states said that if xyz wasn't done, they would withdraw their ratification and the others knew they were powerless to do anything about it.
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