117M gallon Palisades reservoir emptied …

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A rough estimate for water needed to fight a house fire is 600 gallons per 1800 square feet of house

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That is not valid because these were not “house fires”. These were forest fires that reached houses. You can’t save the house by just fighting the fire in the house. It will simply restart when the burning hillside catches it on fire again.

The local governments were probably morons and are to blame for all kinds of foolishness. Certainly ours was in Katrina. But the big failure is that of the State of California, and the Federal Government, which have allowed conditions to deteriorate until these giant fires were a fait-au-complete.

Controlled burns, fire breaks and cleaning forest floors are the answer.

Yes we know. Lots of threads on the reservoirs already.

Keep in mind this is an unprecedented wildfire coupled with Santa Anna winds of over 100mph. It’s basically putting your blower on the fire pit.

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Controlled burns, fire breaks and cleaning forest floors are the answer.

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Those are prevention methods. Need water to fight most fires. The more water, the easier and more efficiently you can fight that fire.

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They had 3 million gallons at their disposal. They could have had 120 million gallons at their disposal. Seems like those extra 117,000,000 gallons might have helped.

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Might have. But this has nothing to do with the post to which you responded. This is a constant theme on here. Advocates of a certain position deem every argument, and every claimed data point that militates in favor of their argument, to be correct. This one was faulty, which I pointed out in (I think) unassailable logic.

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There's another thread with an old man who did just that (as well as his neighbors' houses) with just garden hoses.

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And some were surely put out only to be restarted. On the margin, all kinds of things happen. A flipped coin occasionally lands on its side yielding neither heads nor tails. Most of the homes that burned would not have been saved with the small quantity of water that statistics show would normally stop a home fire. The fact that some would does not validate the calculation in the post that I debunked.

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Enough water to fight ~97,500 large houses would have helped immensel

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Yep. Point stands. Read above.

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Keep in mind this is an unprecedented wildfire coupled with Santa Anna winds of over 100mph. It’s basically putting your blower on the fire pit.

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The reservoir wouldnt have made much of a difference.

Folks have become hyper reactive and are looking for blame before looking for solutions, or thinking clearly.

The folks who live in the California Coastal hills will forever fight these problems, because they live in a tinder box.

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That is not valid because these were not “house fires”. These were forest fires that reached houses. You can’t save the house by just fighting the fire in the house. It will simply restart when the burning hillside catches it on fire again.

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40,000 acres burned and it takes a couple thousand gallons per acre. You do the math. You're being obtuse for no reason.

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These were forest fires that reached houses. You can’t save the house by just fighting the fire in the house. It will simply restart when the burning hillside catches it on fire again.

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This man disagrees with you and proves your assessment wrong

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It’s anecdotal, but have you seen the video of the guy who saved his house and the 14 houses down hill of him by putting an oscillating water sprinkler on his roof?

Fighting this one “house fire” saved 14 additional houses.

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They have to defend the leaders that their party produces at all costs. These are the same people that will transition five year old kids. You think they give a shite about a house?