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Ram creates cap space
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:10 am
Agreed to restructure to league minimum. Creates 16.7 mil in space
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:17 am to Hx15261
Are we doing the fake injury thing again? That would help us. I don't know if the NFL will let us.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:23 am to Hx15261
“ To help the Saints salary cap, Ramczyk agreed to eliminate his $18 million base salary for 2025 and reduce it to the minimum of $1.255 million. This frees up $16.745 million in cap room, allowing the Saints to carry him on the roster at a $12.33 million cap figure until June 2nd at which point he should likely retire. Prior to this the Saints would have had to carry his cap figure at a $29 million number if they wanted to use the June 1 cut.
Ramczyk’s contract still has $23.066 million in dead money and by using the June 1 release the Saints will be able to split that up across two seasons at $11.083 million in 2025 and $11.983 million in 2026. Overall this puts the Saints in about a $12 million better position with the salary cap than if they released him or allowed him to officially retire in March.”
Ramczyk’s contract still has $23.066 million in dead money and by using the June 1 release the Saints will be able to split that up across two seasons at $11.083 million in 2025 and $11.983 million in 2026. Overall this puts the Saints in about a $12 million better position with the salary cap than if they released him or allowed him to officially retire in March.”
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
what fake injury thing are you referring to?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:37 am to Hx15261
What was benefit to Ram to agree to this ?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
They dropped the 2026 salary (still listed on spotrac), so this is a plan to either retire 6/02 and cut another $1.2M on the 2025 cap; or get paid the $1.2M to ride the IR train 1 last year.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:39 am to Stamps74
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What was benefit to Ram to agree to this ?
Probably going to retire anyway, so just delaying the inevitable for the benefit of the team. He wouldn't have received an extra $ whether he retired without renegotiating, or worked it this way
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:40 am to Hx15261
Cam
Davis
Badger
Carr all should follow Ram lead.
Davis
Badger
Carr all should follow Ram lead.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:55 am to Weekend Warrior79
I mean did they give him a roster bonus or something? Idc a financial incentive for him in the reading of the restructuring
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:02 am to Stamps74
If this is to retire, then for all intents and purposes he's retired. They are just asking him to delay the paperwork. It's not like they are going to demand he shows up to voluntary minicamp, OTAs. Whether he retires today, 3/12, 6/02, or 9/04 he would receive the same amount of money $0 with or without the restructure. Why does he need to provide an incentive?
It is also possible that this was already worked out when he did something similar last year and was given a $1.2M guaranteed contract and a $5.3M bonus just to spend the year on IR.
It is also possible that this was already worked out when he did something similar last year and was given a $1.2M guaranteed contract and a $5.3M bonus just to spend the year on IR.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:06 am to Stamps74
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This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:10 am to Hx15261
Kick the can into 2026 dead money no matter how you spin it. And some thought that was our year to “circle”.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:12 am to Weekend Warrior79
Ok I guess I was confused. Using fake #’s. Let’s say he was owed $10M even though injured. Instead of retiring, he could just say pay me my $10M.
He instead agreed to vet minimum.
Why agree to vet minimum restructure instead of the $10M if no “bonus” given. Are we saying the injury is classified as Saints can cut him with zero dollars owed, but the restructuring helps the Saints cap instead ?
I’m just not fully understanding why Ram and his agent agreed to this. Normally you see money paid out to the player, when a restructuring happens to lower the cap.
He instead agreed to vet minimum.
Why agree to vet minimum restructure instead of the $10M if no “bonus” given. Are we saying the injury is classified as Saints can cut him with zero dollars owed, but the restructuring helps the Saints cap instead ?
I’m just not fully understanding why Ram and his agent agreed to this. Normally you see money paid out to the player, when a restructuring happens to lower the cap.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:19 am to Stamps74
Players do not get paid in the offseason. If his contract was for $10M, he would not receive his 1/18th payment until after game 1 in 2025. Therefore, that salary number is irrelevant. Whether he files his paperwork to retire now or on 6/02, everything else is the same. Technically he would still have access to the health benefits, access to the Saints training staff & facility, and any other perks the teams provides until he officially retires. So they probably just asked him to do them a favor, any why wouldn't he consider they treated him properly and have already paid him close to $70M over the past 8 years
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:30 am to Weekend Warrior79
Ok found the answer on Saints wire. This way he gets some money instead of zero.
To start, Ramczyk agreed to waive his $18 million base salary for the 2025 season in exchange for the veteran’s minimum at $1,255,000. Because he’s being forced into a medical retirement, he isn’t getting that money either way, but doing it like this gives the Saints immediate savings of about $16.7 million.
To start, Ramczyk agreed to waive his $18 million base salary for the 2025 season in exchange for the veteran’s minimum at $1,255,000. Because he’s being forced into a medical retirement, he isn’t getting that money either way, but doing it like this gives the Saints immediate savings of about $16.7 million.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:33 am to Hx15261
3 years of 10+ million on the csp for a player that hasn’t played any of those years is brutal.
And he’s still only 30. Should be still playing at an all pro level a couple more years if not for the injury.
And he’s still only 30. Should be still playing at an all pro level a couple more years if not for the injury.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:51 am to Hx15261
Man he was a stud when healthy. Sucks injuries derailed him the last couple of years. Was one of the few times us moving up in the draft has paid off.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:58 am to lionward2014
So did we burn one of the June 1 cuts on this or do we still technically have 2?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:05 pm to Thracken13
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what fake injury thing are you referring to?
What we did this year, where he is effectively retried but we pretended he was active with an injury.
The fraud let us not have to face a larger dead money hit when he does retire. If we did this move again, it would be amazing for our cap situation.
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