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Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:51 am
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17002 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:51 am
Happy with the 3 splits? Especially with the best weather of the year coming in between the 2nd and 3rd splits. I'm not in duck territory except for the excellent shooting of cinnamon teal on TB. Weather has all to do and migration is the key here. No migration, no ducks, don't have the food here only resting places and such. Bout fed up with this bull shite the LWDF keeps throwing at us, it's always something different, and it aint working for me at all. Signed, frick LDWF.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1632 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:23 am to
This one splinter no split wasn’t gunna make a difference in your season hoss.

Can be mad all you want but at the end of the day LDWF isn’t why Louisiana hunters aren’t killing ducks like the early 2000s.

Unfortunately don’t think we ever will again.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32564 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Can be mad all you want but at the end of the day LDWF isn’t why Louisiana hunters aren’t killing ducks like the early 2000s.


late 70s, early 80s late 80s all of 90s make the early 2000s look like nowadays....

10 bird big duck limits were the shite until 83-84
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13322 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 10:21 am to
Guys don’t feel bad, it’s not just LA. I’ve hunted TX and OK all season, birds are scarce up here as well. Didn’t see many ducks this morning and didn’t hear or see a goose. Last year they were everywhere.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10132 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

LDWF isn’t why Louisiana hunters aren’t killing ducks like the early 2000s.

Unfortunately don’t think we ever will again.


This is exactly correct. I don't know what happened to all the ducks but they just aren't here like they used to be. I duck hunted fiendishly for many years and but quit because it just isn't worth it.
Posted by TheOfficial
Member since Feb 2005
1385 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 12:01 am to
As a lifelong Cenla watering hole duck hunter, I think it’s a combination of things.

DU feeding ducks up north.
Farmers capitalizing on the popularity of duck hunting in more ways ever before.
And governmental regulations, not necessarily limited to LDWF.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2321 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:16 am to
No till planting was the nail in the coffin for southern duck hunting. At least the messikan squealers are multiplying faster than the kill rate.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17002 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 1:57 pm to
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messikan squealers are multiplying faster than the kill rate
Killed some this year, first for me. Do they make a call for them?
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3563 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:03 pm to
I think I saw that Haydels makes one.
This third split is one of the dumbest things ever by an agency that is known for for doing head scratching shite
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2321 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:40 am to
Guide Rick Hall calls squealers with a Montana lite dog whistle but as far as a dedicated black belly call, I don’t know? I’m sure Haydel’s is working on something.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5771 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:58 am to
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Happy with the 3 splits? Especially with the best weather of the year coming in between the 2nd and 3rd splits.


No. The three split idea is stupid. We are now missing 2 weeks in January and the season closes on a Friday. If they want to keep us opening earlier than East, that’s fine, but we need to close on a weekend and we need to be able to hunt the entire month of January. It’s the most productive month of the season for us.
Posted by inotsure
Member since Apr 2021
140 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:27 am to
Louisiana west zone opening 2 weeks? Before Arkansas and Mississippi is peak dumbass and closing 2 weeks during part of the best part of the season is really stupid as well.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5410 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:33 am to
The thought is that the early week in November you will catch the early migrators. That’s fine. Open it for a week so some yats can shoot some be teal for a day or two and run them out the country Even if you wit a week or two or three to open it, those ducks will still be there. They aren’t going anywhere

Missing all those days in December and January is ridiculous.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32564 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:47 am to
quote:


Guys don’t feel bad, it’s not just LA. I’ve hunted TX and OK all season, birds are scarce up here as well. Didn’t see many ducks this morning and didn’t hear or see a goose. Last year they were everywhere.



This and LA's chickens have finally come home to roost from: habitat loss/degradation, changing hydrology, ever increasing mechanized human traffic, changing land use patterns and throw in invasives for good measure.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16287 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:15 am to
Fairly certain the three split is to appease early season shite duck (photo migrators) hunters while allowing as late a closing in Jan as possible.
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
534 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:17 am to
If you count youth season, ducks have been getting shot at for 65 days so far in the west zone.

From Nov 2 (youth opener) to Feb 2 (vet close) will be a 92 day stretch.



Posted by inotsure
Member since Apr 2021
140 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:30 am to
Exactly. I halfway understand the opening early for early birds for the coast but they aren’t going anywhere. If anything it’s hurting the hunting by not letting more birds build up and get use to the area. The BS about the northern area of the west zone catching the migrators that two weeks is just that BS. Clubs right across the state line in Arkansas hammer the birds the week after they open because they have been hanging around up there with no pressure for a month after getting run out of Louisiana. Why not open the west zone for one weekend early to satisfy the coastal hunters then close it for two weeks, probably not getting a lot of fresh birds those two weeks anyways.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1260 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:05 am to
quote:

This and LA's chickens have finally come home to roost from: habitat loss/degradation, changing hydrology, ever increasing mechanized human traffic, changing land use patterns and throw in invasives for good measure.
Ehh, I get the sentiment, but this is overplayed in the grand scheme of duck migration. These are variables that affect ducks staying once they migrate and really only explains coastal LA. The larger issue, not only for LA, but most other states is the actual migration itself, and then the subsequent re-migration. Like mentioned by CaptST, those "good states" in the Central flyway are and have been having crappy years because of this as well. Sure they have some moments, but in general it isn't what it used to be. There shouldnt be a bird left in the Dakotas, MN, WI, IA in December, much less January. But I bet they are there.

The genetics of the birds have changed for a lot of species. They only migrate as far as necessary at one time. If there is food and water, majority will stay put. Most would be surprised what a duck will actually stay through nowadays. They aren't moving for a 2 day cold snap. They can/will dig down through a foot of snow for food. Those that did leave will migrate back north at the first feeling of warmth. No duck is staying in the marsh or some watering hole in a cattle field for fun. Its relatively easy for a bird to get from LA/TX/ARK back up around the Mason Dixon line between the MS and CT flyways in a 24hr period.

I hunt coastal LA and have "enjoyed" the early opener as we usually do pretty well. But at the same time acknowledge the stupidity of it as well. No sense in pressuring them just because they are here. That only makes them move back up north to no pressure. In the Coastal/West zone, open it Thanksgiving week, have one 7 dayish closure sometime around the week before Christmas, re-open on a Monday (this seasons split would have been 12/16-12/22) and run it through the second to last week of Jan. That last week in Jan in coastal LA is miserable with low water and stale/shy birds. I know no one who truly does well and enjoys that week, but everyone clamors for it...
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5612 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:26 am to
quote:


The thought is that the early week in November you will catch the early migrators.


yea then they leave because as soon as they get here they are getting shot at

LA should follow Ark dates - open week of Thanksgiving then close for 2 weeks then open back up - close Christmas eve/day then open until end of Jan
Posted by DuckSausage
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
440 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Even if you wit a week or two or three to open it, those ducks will still be there. They aren’t going anywhere


This exactly.
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