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If the four favorites win their games in the CFP, we will be assured of a 2 loss champion.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:09 pm
We have obviously never had a scenario with the semi-final teams all having 2 losses. It will be the first time since 2007, and only the second time in BCS/CFP history that a 2 loss team will be national champs. Other than 2007, no other two loss team has even played for a title. I think its safe to say this season was no where near as crazy as 2007, so is this a one off? Is parity here to stay, even at the highest level?
My personal take is perfection, especially in football, is a mindset. If teams had to be 12-0 or 11-1 to be champions, you would have more teams reaching that level of success. If 10-2 is good enough to get to the CFP, teams will adjust their mindset for that goal. I'm not sure if this means these teams are not elite or have we just moved the definition of elite?
My personal take is perfection, especially in football, is a mindset. If teams had to be 12-0 or 11-1 to be champions, you would have more teams reaching that level of success. If 10-2 is good enough to get to the CFP, teams will adjust their mindset for that goal. I'm not sure if this means these teams are not elite or have we just moved the definition of elite?
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 10:20 pm
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:15 pm to Basura Blanco
Those days are gone. It’s more of a nfl product now. Too many good teams in one conference. 2-3 losses will be a good season going forward
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:18 pm to Basura Blanco
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My personal take is perfection, especially in football, is a mindset. If teams had to be 12-0 or 11-1 to be champions, you would have more teams reaching that level of success
Been saying this all year when everyone was screaming about parity. There's not more parity there's just less urgency.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:18 pm to Basura Blanco
Who are the favorites?
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:19 pm to Basura Blanco
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have we just moved the definition of elite?
Well yeah, we all knew the CFB playoffs would turn into a smaller NFL where 10-6 teams win the Super Bowl. Sure you won it all, got hot but only because you were given the shot, not because you were great. 8-12 in the CFB playoffs is basically wild card weekend.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:22 pm to POTUS2024
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Who are the favorites?
UGA -2
Ohio St -2.5
Penn St -11
Texas -13.5
Posted on 12/27/24 at 10:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Well yeah, we all knew the CFB playoffs would turn into a smaller NFL where 10-6 teams win the Super Bowl.
I thought this too, but that really isn't the case, You rarely have upset free wild card weekends in the NFL. We had a weekend of blowouts in the CFP. I think this is more equivalent to everyone being 12-4 with no dominant team.
Time will tell, but I cant see Penn St or Texas losing. If Beck were healthy, UGA would be a TD favorite over ND. Ohio St/Oregon is really the only toss up imo. There is no clear cut dominant team left, with maybe the exception of Oregon who isn't even favored over a two loss team they already beat.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:02 pm to RandySavage
quote:There absolutely is, the power teams have never been this thin. The great SEC 2-deeps at DL are a thing of the past because everyone that's not starting that can hits the portal immediately. Kirby has talked about this at length and said that his team (who finished #2) is the thinnest he's ever had there
There's not more parity
With mercenaries being able to bounce around with impunity, 2-loss champions going forward are going to be the norm, not the exception
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:09 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Well yeah, we all knew the CFB playoffs would turn into a smaller NFL where 10-6 teams win the Super Bowl.
Literally zero evidence to suggest this actually happens.
You’ll get upsets but I doubt you’ll ever get a 10+ seed even making it to the title game, much less winning it.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:23 am to Basura Blanco
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UGA -2
Ohio St -2.5
Penn St -11
Texas -13.5
I wasn't sure how favorites and all that were shaking out since the seeding is all jacked up.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 4:53 am to Basura Blanco
With the 12 team playoff, 2 loss champions are going to become common as they represent most of the field.
Hell, you eventually will have a 3 loss champion at some point, especially if the field is expanded again.
Hell, you eventually will have a 3 loss champion at some point, especially if the field is expanded again.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:13 am to POTUS2024
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I wasn't sure how favorites and all that were shaking out since the seeding is all jacked up.
PSU losing both games against good team got rewarded with the easiest path
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:20 am to LG2BAMA
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Those days are gone. It’s more of a nfl product now. Too many good teams in one conference. 2-3 losses will be a good season going forward
LSU went undefeated 5 years ago while playing both teams that have now been added to their conference.
Teams will still do it.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:55 am to Basura Blanco
Even if we had a BCS system this season a 2 loss team would have a chance at the championship. It would’ve been Oregon vs Georgia.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:59 am to Basura Blanco
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Other than 2007, no other two loss team has even played for a title. I think its safe to say this season was no where near as crazy as 2007, so is this a one off? Is parity here to stay, even at the highest level?
There is one undefeated team this season and all the ranked 1 loss teams made the playoffs except Army. It is the result of scheduling and parity in the B1G and SEC, IMO.
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My personal take is perfection, especially in football, is a mindset. If teams had to be 12-0 or 11-1 to be champions, you would have more teams reaching that level of success.
You still have to play the games and with NIL and the portal, it is difficult to win all your games in a conference with other very good teams. In terms of mindset, it is difficult to maintain that with a constantly shifting roster and the uncertainty of players you are counting on to be leaders returning.
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If teams had to be 12-0 or 11-1 to be champions, you would have more teams reaching that level of success.
Maybe. Or maybe this year will be the anomaly. The only guarantee is if you win your conference title Two losses is flirting with disaster going into a conference championship game.
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I'm not sure if this means these teams are not elite or have we just moved the definition of elite?
No team will be considered elite in college football if they lose 2 games, regardless of them winning a Natty.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:34 am to Basura Blanco
#WeAreAllDucks
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:45 am to RemouladeSawce
You think Alabama lost to Vandy and OK but they didnt have enough depth on tbeir DL?
The talent differential is what it has always been, outside of the Saban anomaly, the difference is the kids are mercenaries and dgaf like they used to and are more susceptible to let downs.
The talent differential is what it has always been, outside of the Saban anomaly, the difference is the kids are mercenaries and dgaf like they used to and are more susceptible to let downs.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 8:49 am
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:56 am to RandySavage
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the difference is the kids are mercenaries and dgaf like they used to and are more susceptible to let downs.
I think this is a big thing people may not all see. People think they are seeing more parity but a big part of it is the teams with talent have way less stability and player buyin, upsets gonna get way more common. Players don't take preparation and discipline as seriously considering they can dip at any time.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 9:01 am
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