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How many of you have truly been screwed over by an insurance company?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:20 pm
I mean really treated badly, like a legit claim being denied or something underhanded. Not your cousin’s uncle’s next door neighbor who cries about everything. I feel like this is something people complain about but very few ever experience. My experience with insurance companies is that they for the most part want to do right by their insured’s. Do things not go perfectly? Sure, but to me that seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:21 pm to L5ut1g3r
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My experience with insurance companies is that they for the most part want to do right by their insured’s.
I, a doctor who deals with them daily, see them do at least one egregious thing a day.
I’ve considered starting a website.
You have to be a doctor to post.
You pay $1 to post.
You post a story that’s verified about insurance misbehaving.
Pretty sure I’d outearn my day job and effect change.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:24 pm to Hopeful Doc
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I, a doctor
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Pretty sure
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by Hopeful Doc
Name checks out
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:24 pm to L5ut1g3r
We had storm damage for years and they kept saying no over and over. Lead to numerous leaks and drywall repair with me patching.
Finally had a tornado in May which lead to them repairing the roof and having to do the drywall all in one fell swoop on top of thousands of homes getting claims.
On a smaller note, one of my kids had a cough flu like symptoms for 3 weeks. Tested positive for nothing and insurance denied all the testing to the tune of $500 after the copay because they didn’t cover it.
Finally had a tornado in May which lead to them repairing the roof and having to do the drywall all in one fell swoop on top of thousands of homes getting claims.
On a smaller note, one of my kids had a cough flu like symptoms for 3 weeks. Tested positive for nothing and insurance denied all the testing to the tune of $500 after the copay because they didn’t cover it.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:25 pm to L5ut1g3r
A woman backed into my car in a parking lot. It took 5 months for it to be repaired due to difficulty getting parts. Her insurance company agreed to rent me a car for 6 days. I used to think that if an accident was not your fault, you would have no out of pocket expenses. I was wrong.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:28 pm to Hopeful Doc
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I, a doctor who deals with them daily, see them do at least one egregious thing a day.
Some dweebs on here told me insurance is just trying to bring our costs down but those mean old doctors and anesthesiologists keep over-billing
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:29 pm to L5ut1g3r
After 19 years, USAA just lost a $10.5 Million Katrina lawsuit that went all the way to the State Supreme Court.
Harrison County Mississippi
Harrison County Mississippi
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:29 pm to L5ut1g3r
I’ve never really needed to claim anything. All I know if that when I was in high school our house was robbed and I got a bunch of brand new awesome shite. Insurance rocks. Insurance has also been great for my mom and her house flooding multiple times. Seems to be working as intended?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:30 pm to L5ut1g3r
I need surgery on my left knee due to torn meniscus. Doctor wrote the order, said there is no alternative. Insurance denied the surgery until I have physical therapy lol. They want to spend their money and waste my time on PT, as if PT will regrow torn cartilage.
It’s not the end of the world but frustrating and dumb.
It’s not the end of the world but frustrating and dumb.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:30 pm to L5ut1g3r
My homeowners insurance tried to not replace my roof as if their lives depended on it even after multiple adjusters and roofers said I needed a new roof. My house had water damage all over the place from the roof damage. It took rain getting into an otherwise undamaged room one day for them to decide a replacement was warranted. It was a multi month argument.
My sister's insurance company tried to drop her and not cover her cancer treatments just before she passed. It was a multiple year battle with several surgeries. The insurance company had some bullshite clause they tried to claim to not cover it. I don't know the specifics of the debt or who exactly it would have fallen on. Luckily she worked for a law firm at the time. The absolute saint of a man who owned the firm told my parents he would cover the cost regardless of the outcome but he was suing them for free on our behalf to get it covered. He won after a few years and my parents never had to pay. We are forever eternally grateful for that man.
My sister's insurance company tried to drop her and not cover her cancer treatments just before she passed. It was a multiple year battle with several surgeries. The insurance company had some bullshite clause they tried to claim to not cover it. I don't know the specifics of the debt or who exactly it would have fallen on. Luckily she worked for a law firm at the time. The absolute saint of a man who owned the firm told my parents he would cover the cost regardless of the outcome but he was suing them for free on our behalf to get it covered. He won after a few years and my parents never had to pay. We are forever eternally grateful for that man.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:31 pm to L5ut1g3r
I tried to get ozempic but all they would approve is Lizzo.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:32 pm to L5ut1g3r
I have an 80/20 Humana plan for dental. I needed a tooth extracting and bone graft. $1800 procedure and i got a check initially for $120 and they denied the rest. The best I could do was $610 out of them. They actually told me my new implant was supposed to be done at the time of the bone graft. They couldn't tell me what would happen when I chewed on the tooth the first time
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:33 pm to Hopeful Doc
well they fricked around with my Harvey claim
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:33 pm to Hopeful Doc
well they fricked around with my Harvey claim
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:35 pm to L5ut1g3r
Yeah, after Ida. We had to get the Louisiana Department of Insurance involved all over a
$2,000 claim. It wasn’t so much about the money VS the insurance company doing what we pay them for.
$2,000 claim. It wasn’t so much about the money VS the insurance company doing what we pay them for.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:36 pm to L5ut1g3r
I am being hit up for $22K. American Oncology Network will not call us back and neither they nor Blue Cross can’t figure out what the frick i am being billed for. AON showed me that everything was paid, but AON corporate says I owe $22K. frick all those motherfrickers. Meanwhile I get this fricking bill every month.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:37 pm to L5ut1g3r
I can only speak for auto insurance as I work in this industry however I’d imagine other insurance industries operate the same way
The insurance company is there to pay what it is legally obligated to pay. Nothing more and nothing less.
The insurance company is there to pay what it is legally obligated to pay. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:38 pm to L5ut1g3r
I had my knee scoped last summer. My BCBS has done me well except they denied my anesthesia. However, the anesthesia group screwed up and filed it as a workers comp claim which it was not. So we’ll see how it shakes out. Currently sitting on a $1,600 bill for anesthesia that BCBS continues to deny. I’ve heard about BCBS denying anesthesia but I can’t say that’s the case in my situation.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:41 pm to Ingeniero
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Some dweebs on here told me insurance is just trying to bring our costs down but those mean old doctors and anesthesiologists keep over-billing
We aren’t doing bad, overall. But if you quit paying all doctors today and they still worked, you’d cut costs between 8-15%, depending on the source you read (a google of “physician reimbursement as a percentage of healthcare dollars spent” will find you a lot of sources and graphs with those rough ranges).
I’m in a small office. 2 docs, 1 NP.
We have a nurse whose entire job is to get authorizations for imaging, procedures, hospital stays, etc approved. Each of our nurses individually have to get PAs on medications. We have a separate nurse whose entire job is to check insurance benefits so patients know their copay, deductible, planned expenses.
This doesn’t include the billing department who actually fights the claims, denials. They do have a few other duties. But accepting insurance on behalf of my patients costs me roughly 3 full time employees (if considering the two billers that do other things as one person working full time in an insurance-facing manner (and about one other 3/4-FTE for the other duties, but it makes sense with our workflows to split them up in that way)
And then when any of them gets denied with the documentation I’ve supplied, I get on the line with another doctor and argue the case. This doesn’t cost the patient anything from me. And the insurance company doesn’t pay me to do it. But I’ll probably spend an hour or so a month directly on the phone (excluding chart review, pulling guidelines, etc). The insurance banks on some percentage of cases being not worth the ordering physician’s time, so they can get away with denying the care because they offered appeal if thought to be inappropriate and the resource wasn’t used. That percentage that they don’t have to pay for (or delay payment for) is worth a lot of money to them.
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