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Remembrance - Day of Infamy 1941

Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:32 am
Posted by Touchdowns4LSU
Baghdad On The Bayou
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:32 am
Please remember all who served at home and abroad to end this horrible war.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:35 am to
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Remembrance - Day of Infamy 1941

My first memory - 3 yrs old - listening to Pres Roosevelt declare war - vivid image of where I was standing - not because of the POTUS words but the reaction of the adults in the family - had never witnessed my mother cry, etc.
Posted by Touchdowns4LSU
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:37 am to
You date me :) I only recall the end of the WWII when the celebrations were crazy in tiny towns like mine - El Dorado, KS
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:39 am to
FDR wanted war with Japan since his college days. And he did everything possible to provoke them into that monstrous attack
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:40 am to
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Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:47 am to
My Dad, my father-in-law and several of my Uncles all served in WW2. It was a bitter war, but I still hold a grudge against FDR for baiting Japan into attacking us in the first place!! FDR wanted us involved, just like Woodrow Wilson in WW1
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:31 pm to
Both Grandfathers and a Great Uncle served in the European Theater. I will never forget.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48776 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:36 pm to
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You date me :) I only recall the end of the WWII when the celebrations were crazy in tiny towns like mine - El Dorado, KS

not by much - I lived in Leesville, LA - home of Camp Polk at the time. They had already started modernizing that place to take part in the Louisiana Maneuvers which were held in upper Vernon Parish. When I was about 8-12 yrs old the military activity was insane around Leesville. We had tanks and associated vehicles rumbling down the street (3rd st) right in front of my house.
Later, we moved out to our farm place about 7 miles north of Leesville, and had to contend with the convoys to get to town and back. A bunch of soldiers bivouacked on our land and I made friends with them - My dad asked several of them to eat with us and mom fixed them a great meal (mom was best cook in the state)
When they prepared to leave the next morning the Master Sgt. came to house and asked dad if there was anything he wanted for them to 'leave behind' - he mentioned he needed some barbed wire. They asked me and I said "K-Rations" - The next morning there was a huge pile of barbed wire in the front lawn and a dozen or more packs of K-rations. (I tried the K-rations and really didn't like them so much so stored them away.)
Great days back then for a young boy - we were practically free range and if we got our chores done, nothing more was asked - expected to be home for dinner if we wanted anything to eat.

WHAT A TIME TO BE A YOUNG BOY!!!!! - I pity these poor souls with their video games - and I have 3 great-grandchildren who are in that group. I fear they will not have the great memories I had - having to recall video games.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:40 pm to
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And he did everything possible to provoke them into that monstrous attack


And yet Japan never had to attack the United States or the British to begin with. They feared attacking the Dutch East Indies and leaving the American-held Philippine Islands and British-held Malaya peninsula on their flanks and rear so they decided to go for broke and attack the Anglo-American territories of the Pacific. However, does anyone truly believe the American public would have supported going to war against Japan over some Dutch colonies in the Pacific? Me thinks no.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:10 pm to
I live next door, in Andover. KS
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1411 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:33 pm to
My Grandpa was there. He never would talk to me about it. My dad told me once Grandpa only told him that's the day he grew into a man.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39861 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:37 pm to
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And yet Japan never had to attack the United States or the British to begin with. They feared attacking the Dutch East Indies and leaving the American-held Philippine Islands and British-held Malaya peninsula on their flanks and rear so they decided to go for broke and attack the Anglo-American territories of the Pacific. However, does anyone truly believe the American public would have supported going to war against Japan over some Dutch colonies in the Pacific? Me thinks no.


I’ve always thought this. Up to the 1940 election, America was still very isolationist.
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
919 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:44 pm to
My grandfather and great uncle (basically Irish twins) participated in the LA maneuvers.

On the 8th they both attempted to enlist in the Marines but were denied due to their vision.

The following week they were drafted into the Army.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21251 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Up to the 1940 election, America was still very isolationist.

The good ole days.
Posted by Touchdowns4LSU
Baghdad On The Bayou
Member since Oct 2004
7644 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:21 pm to
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I live next door, in Andover. KS


My dad worked in the Skelly refinery during the war. We moved to Tulsa immediately after the war. I still remember El Dorado fondly even though I was about 5 when we moved away.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22120 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:54 pm to
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a Great Uncle served


My Great Uncle served in the Confederacy, became a POW...
I had one Grandfather born in the 1870's, the other in the early 1880's.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:29 am to
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My dad worked in the Skelly refinery during the war. We moved to Tulsa immediately after the war. I still remember El Dorado fondly even though I was about 5 when we moved away.


I was born in 1960. Grew up in Tulsa and attended Skelly Jr. High.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:34 am to
Have any of you baws ever heard of the Perry Expedition?

The US Navy attacked Tokyo around 1850. At that time, Japan had no modern military and were an isolationist country. We attacked them because we wanted to force them to become trading partners.

I've often wondered if there was any lingering resentment on their side regarding that incident 90 years prior to Pearl Harbor.

After that attack, they came out of their shell and developed a modern military, which led to them taking over parts of Korea and China.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4266 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:16 am to
LINK were the celebrations like this?
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5083 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:23 am to
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The US Navy attacked Tokyo around 1850. At that time, Japan had no modern military and were an isolationist country. We attacked them because we wanted to force them to become trading partners.


We didn't attack them. Adm. Perry floated his battleship into Tokyo Harbour to intimidate them into negotiating a treaty. The japs had been acting like pirates attacking our ships and killing/imprisoning our sailors. Perry basically scared the shite out of them. And it worked too but it also gave rise to Japanese militarism. They realized they needed a bad arse military if they didn't want to be pushed around. Then they started doing the pushing. 90 yrs later Pearl Harbor
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