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Remembrance - Day of Infamy 1941
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:32 am
Please remember all who served at home and abroad to end this horrible war.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:35 am to Touchdowns4LSU
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Remembrance - Day of Infamy 1941
My first memory - 3 yrs old - listening to Pres Roosevelt declare war - vivid image of where I was standing - not because of the POTUS words but the reaction of the adults in the family - had never witnessed my mother cry, etc.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:37 am to ChineseBandit58
You date me :) I only recall the end of the WWII when the celebrations were crazy in tiny towns like mine - El Dorado, KS
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:39 am to Touchdowns4LSU
FDR wanted war with Japan since his college days. And he did everything possible to provoke them into that monstrous attack
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:40 am to Touchdowns4LSU
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:47 am to Tiger in Texas
My Dad, my father-in-law and several of my Uncles all served in WW2. It was a bitter war, but I still hold a grudge against FDR for baiting Japan into attacking us in the first place!! FDR wanted us involved, just like Woodrow Wilson in WW1
Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:31 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
Both Grandfathers and a Great Uncle served in the European Theater. I will never forget.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:36 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
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You date me :) I only recall the end of the WWII when the celebrations were crazy in tiny towns like mine - El Dorado, KS
not by much - I lived in Leesville, LA - home of Camp Polk at the time. They had already started modernizing that place to take part in the Louisiana Maneuvers which were held in upper Vernon Parish. When I was about 8-12 yrs old the military activity was insane around Leesville. We had tanks and associated vehicles rumbling down the street (3rd st) right in front of my house.
Later, we moved out to our farm place about 7 miles north of Leesville, and had to contend with the convoys to get to town and back. A bunch of soldiers bivouacked on our land and I made friends with them - My dad asked several of them to eat with us and mom fixed them a great meal (mom was best cook in the state)
When they prepared to leave the next morning the Master Sgt. came to house and asked dad if there was anything he wanted for them to 'leave behind' - he mentioned he needed some barbed wire. They asked me and I said "K-Rations" - The next morning there was a huge pile of barbed wire in the front lawn and a dozen or more packs of K-rations. (I tried the K-rations and really didn't like them so much so stored them away.)
Great days back then for a young boy - we were practically free range and if we got our chores done, nothing more was asked - expected to be home for dinner if we wanted anything to eat.
WHAT A TIME TO BE A YOUNG BOY!!!!! - I pity these poor souls with their video games - and I have 3 great-grandchildren who are in that group. I fear they will not have the great memories I had - having to recall video games.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:40 pm to Hayekian serf
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And he did everything possible to provoke them into that monstrous attack
And yet Japan never had to attack the United States or the British to begin with. They feared attacking the Dutch East Indies and leaving the American-held Philippine Islands and British-held Malaya peninsula on their flanks and rear so they decided to go for broke and attack the Anglo-American territories of the Pacific. However, does anyone truly believe the American public would have supported going to war against Japan over some Dutch colonies in the Pacific? Me thinks no.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:10 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
I live next door, in Andover. KS
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:33 pm to Touchdowns4LSU
My Grandpa was there. He never would talk to me about it. My dad told me once Grandpa only told him that's the day he grew into a man.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:37 pm to RollTide1987
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And yet Japan never had to attack the United States or the British to begin with. They feared attacking the Dutch East Indies and leaving the American-held Philippine Islands and British-held Malaya peninsula on their flanks and rear so they decided to go for broke and attack the Anglo-American territories of the Pacific. However, does anyone truly believe the American public would have supported going to war against Japan over some Dutch colonies in the Pacific? Me thinks no.
I’ve always thought this. Up to the 1940 election, America was still very isolationist.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:44 pm to SoFla Tideroller
My grandfather and great uncle (basically Irish twins) participated in the LA maneuvers.
On the 8th they both attempted to enlist in the Marines but were denied due to their vision.
The following week they were drafted into the Army.
On the 8th they both attempted to enlist in the Marines but were denied due to their vision.
The following week they were drafted into the Army.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Up to the 1940 election, America was still very isolationist.
The good ole days.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:21 pm to Bogie00
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I live next door, in Andover. KS
My dad worked in the Skelly refinery during the war. We moved to Tulsa immediately after the war. I still remember El Dorado fondly even though I was about 5 when we moved away.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:54 pm to TigerAxeOK
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a Great Uncle served
My Great Uncle served in the Confederacy, became a POW...
I had one Grandfather born in the 1870's, the other in the early 1880's.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:29 am to Touchdowns4LSU
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My dad worked in the Skelly refinery during the war. We moved to Tulsa immediately after the war. I still remember El Dorado fondly even though I was about 5 when we moved away.
I was born in 1960. Grew up in Tulsa and attended Skelly Jr. High.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 6:34 am to Stinger_1066
Have any of you baws ever heard of the Perry Expedition?
The US Navy attacked Tokyo around 1850. At that time, Japan had no modern military and were an isolationist country. We attacked them because we wanted to force them to become trading partners.
I've often wondered if there was any lingering resentment on their side regarding that incident 90 years prior to Pearl Harbor.
After that attack, they came out of their shell and developed a modern military, which led to them taking over parts of Korea and China.
The US Navy attacked Tokyo around 1850. At that time, Japan had no modern military and were an isolationist country. We attacked them because we wanted to force them to become trading partners.
I've often wondered if there was any lingering resentment on their side regarding that incident 90 years prior to Pearl Harbor.
After that attack, they came out of their shell and developed a modern military, which led to them taking over parts of Korea and China.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:16 am to Touchdowns4LSU
LINK were the celebrations like this?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:23 am to Stinger_1066
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The US Navy attacked Tokyo around 1850. At that time, Japan had no modern military and were an isolationist country. We attacked them because we wanted to force them to become trading partners.
We didn't attack them. Adm. Perry floated his battleship into Tokyo Harbour to intimidate them into negotiating a treaty. The japs had been acting like pirates attacking our ships and killing/imprisoning our sailors. Perry basically scared the shite out of them. And it worked too but it also gave rise to Japanese militarism. They realized they needed a bad arse military if they didn't want to be pushed around. Then they started doing the pushing. 90 yrs later Pearl Harbor
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