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BK is OK
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:02 am
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:02 am
Look I’ll be the first to admit that I am disappointed on what type of season we are having. HOWEVER, I do believe we have the right guy.
My reasons:
1. Stable program
2. We dont have the players. We knew we were taking a hit on Offense with a Heisman qb leaving and 2 stud wrs.
3. We all knew the defense was going to be suspect. Especially with depth and learning a new defense.
4. Sloan hire is BKs only knock for me. Seemed like the easy hire and I believe he should go back to qbs coach and the elite recruiter he is.
5. NIL support. We simply are one of the bottom SEC NIL schools.
5. If not BK…..then who?? Please do not say Lane, or Cignitti or Lanning.
NOW, given all those reasons and to still bring in the recruiting class they did, if he can’t get anything done with them then YES GTFO.
thanks for coming to my ted talk
My reasons:
1. Stable program
2. We dont have the players. We knew we were taking a hit on Offense with a Heisman qb leaving and 2 stud wrs.
3. We all knew the defense was going to be suspect. Especially with depth and learning a new defense.
4. Sloan hire is BKs only knock for me. Seemed like the easy hire and I believe he should go back to qbs coach and the elite recruiter he is.
5. NIL support. We simply are one of the bottom SEC NIL schools.
5. If not BK…..then who?? Please do not say Lane, or Cignitti or Lanning.
NOW, given all those reasons and to still bring in the recruiting class they did, if he can’t get anything done with them then YES GTFO.
thanks for coming to my ted talk
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:03 am to whodat2832
Go to bed
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:04 am to BootyFett69
Please let me hear your reasons on why not BK. Honestly Open to hearing people out
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:13 am to whodat2832
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NIL support. We simply are one of the bottom SEC NIL schools.
Is this true??
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:16 am to BamaCoaster
Who do we have besides Canes and Gordon?
Oregon Nike
Austin Texas all Tech
A&M oil
Bama cult like donors
Oregon Nike
Austin Texas all Tech
A&M oil
Bama cult like donors
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:22 am to whodat2832
LSU was ranked 7th nationally in NIL funding at $618 million by 24/7, which was ahead of Bama and OU. Your premise is totally wrong.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:36 am to BamaCoaster
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quote:NIL support. We simply are one of the bottom SEC NIL schools. Is this true??
No. It’s a myth perpetrated by people who have no idea what they’re talking about. We have a top 5 recruiting class. They aren’t coming here for free.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:58 am to Riverside
Interesting, I’d like to look at lsu nil valuation. But hey could have misspoken.
If not BK then who? Why fire him?
If not BK then who? Why fire him?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:14 am to whodat2832
I think Kelly is a good coach. I still think that. HOWEVER, I'm done defending him.
His teams come out looking unprepared and lost in almost every game. Spare me the "it's just the execution" excuse. He got those players here, he's responsible for making them better.
With the exception of Jayden Daniels, few have been made better. The two All American SEC tackles have gone backwards and while one may look at Brad Davis for that, who hired Brad Davis? I'm not saying fire Davis but it starts with the guy driving the bus.
Period.
Enough of the "put it on me" stuff. Fans have been hearing that for over 5 years now. Fix it.
I understand he can't just create a magical player out of thin air but as he says, "These are who we have."
I don't want the guy to be fired but I do want to see improvements. We're in week 10 and to be honest, the beginning of the season looked better, It should be the other way around.
He's paid handsomely and I want to see adjustments, So should any other LSU fan.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some can still defend the product he puts out week after week.
His teams come out looking unprepared and lost in almost every game. Spare me the "it's just the execution" excuse. He got those players here, he's responsible for making them better.
With the exception of Jayden Daniels, few have been made better. The two All American SEC tackles have gone backwards and while one may look at Brad Davis for that, who hired Brad Davis? I'm not saying fire Davis but it starts with the guy driving the bus.
Period.
Enough of the "put it on me" stuff. Fans have been hearing that for over 5 years now. Fix it.
I understand he can't just create a magical player out of thin air but as he says, "These are who we have."
I don't want the guy to be fired but I do want to see improvements. We're in week 10 and to be honest, the beginning of the season looked better, It should be the other way around.
He's paid handsomely and I want to see adjustments, So should any other LSU fan.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some can still defend the product he puts out week after week.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:16 am to whodat2832
I agree
When BK was hired who else was out there?
Keeping BK continues with program stability
A program can’t continue changing coaches every three years, but improvement needs to be shown in year 4. Nothing is guaranteed on hiring a new coach or keeping BK no one has a crystal ball.
When BK was hired who else was out there?
Keeping BK continues with program stability
A program can’t continue changing coaches every three years, but improvement needs to be shown in year 4. Nothing is guaranteed on hiring a new coach or keeping BK no one has a crystal ball.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:31 am to la_birdman
quote:
the beginning of the season looked better, It should be the other way around.
Losing key players for stretches of games can do that. It happens.
quote:
want to see adjustments,
They controlled the TOP and run game. If they do that versus Vandy, they win that game. OU, we will see because they are still good defensively.
I think the TOP and run game are directly related to him inserting himself. Sloan is the play caller. Technically they are co-coordinators. That is my beef.
He also had to pay for Baker. That was a money thing to be honest.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:32 am to whodat2832
quote:
1. Stable program
2. We dont have the players. We knew we were taking a hit on Offense with a Heisman qb leaving and 2 stud wrs.
3. We all knew the defense was going to be suspect. Especially with depth and learning a new defense.
Nothing says "stable program" like three straight embarrassing losses. The primary reason we don't "have the players" now is because Kelly rolled with a weak recruiting staff then.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:50 am to AlwysATgr
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weak recruiting staff then.
The 2021 and 2022 classes should be the ones driving this ship. When O was fired a number of players left. Technically there were 39 and he was able to keep some to stay like Nussmeier. Revisionist on and / or recency bias is crazy on here?
Now Raymond, Wilson are bad recruiting hires as is Sloan, and others.
How did NIL impact the getting of those dlinemen?
This is about losing the OC, firing a really good defensive mind DC because he couldn’t dummy it down enough and lost the players, and replacing your running game and passing game with Daniels. Then replacing the center, who calls the plays for that group where having an EXPERIENCED QB is critical, is difficult. Defensively, the interior line is just short on maturity. You need men with age and strength and technique and experience inside. You lose in the trenches and win in the trenches.
Then lose players there during the season like your 5th year LG.
This was an 8-4 SEC season from the start which is what I predicted. It isn’t that hard.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:54 am to Tiger1988
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Losing key players for stretches of games can do that.
Like Swinson getting suspended for the first quarter for undisclosed reasons?
I get injuries and so forth happen but when it turns to disciplinary issues, at week 10, that makes one raise their eyebrows.
Is the program ok? With the little bit of details we know, it doesn't seem like it is.
I'm looking at the guy who gets paid $10M/year to at least show that he can improve his program. I'm not expecting him to go to the national championship this year but I think I speak for all reasonable LSU fans when I say, "let's see some improvement." I mean look at this board.
To some losing to Vanderbilt (no disrespect to them) is actually possible. Probably because they beat the team that beat LSU AFTER a week off.
This is what's bothering people.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 1:57 am
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:55 am to Tiger1988
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They controlled the TOP and run game
Yes they did. And still got beat by two scores. Dress it up however you want but that's the reality.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:19 am to whodat2832
My man! Your ok!
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:44 am to whodat2832
No he is not. Lsu just lost 3 games in a row. This year is washed. He has to win the opener in 2025 vs clemson or he will be 0-4 in openers as an Lsu coach and his seat will be hotter than ever
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:59 am to Tiger1988
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Revisionist on and / or recency bias is crazy on here?
IDK what you're saying here. I'm not revising anything. Raymond was not retained by BK. This is his first year back from UF.
BK has had three recruiting cycles + the portal and has not brought in one player on the D-side that would've seen reps on the 2011 squad. Perhaps, you could argue Harold or Swinson or Weeks. That's on BK.
Coordinators are an inherent turnstile. Good ones move on; bad ones get replaced. BK had 31 yrs of HC experience when he was hired. That's part of why he was hired and part of why he was given a 10Y contract. Sorry, he doesn't get to use a coordinator change as an excuse.
BK has not shown he can manage a roster or an SEC schedule in this era. People who make excuses for BK at this juncture are wearisome.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:02 am to la_birdman
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get injuries and so forth happen but when it turns to disciplinary issues, at week 10, that makes one raise their eyebrows.
I take it you’ve never raised kids especially boys that age. Somethings should not be said in the media and I’m sure Swinson did something that deserved it. The first quarter wasn’t the problem, it was how they finished. There could be a myriad of reasons players get suspended. Happens at every school.
quote:
I'm looking at the guy who gets paid $10M/year to at least show that he can improve his program
He did that from day one from the crap show snd Swinson getting disciplined could be one of the rules that was violated that may have been previously accepted which led to a scene from Waterboy.
quote:they have the same record as LSU and are well coached with a team of players from a different school that ran the same system for years. The only way to beat them is win TOP and finish drives. They will score - Ask Bama and hell they gave UT all it wanted. I would not be shocked if LSU doesn’t lose this game because of the matchup of their offense and LSUs defense or lack thereof with filling the run lanes and protecting. The LSU defense will need to play a lot of man and load the box.
To some losing to Vanderbilt (no disrespect to them) is actually possible. Probably because they beat the team that beat LSU AFTER a week off.
The LSU offense may as well add a full back /TE for pass protection and running. Move Bordelon inside and at TE.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:03 am to Lark225
Who would you bring in if you are so distraught with BK?
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