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Safeties’ Physicality

Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:23 am
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Jul 2015
890 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:23 am
LSU has more than one problem, but #1 from my observations over the season is the lack of physicality of our safeties. Where are the LaRon Landry, Chad Jones type punishers? Even when our safeties are in position to make the tackle, they seem hesitant and absorb contact versus creating contact. See this time and time again by Gilbert and Ryan.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69443 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Gilbert


There were a couple plays where he should have made the initial contact on the wr and ended up not even being involved in the tackle...talk about shying away from contact
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10881 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Where are the LaRon Landry, Chad Jones type punishers?
those don't really exist in todays football.
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Jul 2015
890 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:34 am to
I get it that the game has changed with personal foul penalty rules protecting offensive players, but how about Jamal Adams type safeties? He was a sure tackling machine that loved the contact.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53709 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:39 am to
It''s starting to remind me of Dennis Allen, players are not giving max effort
Posted by tigerstripes
Loranger, LA
Member since Aug 2006
879 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:39 am to
Great point. Seems like they whiff or step back at times. Gilbert was awful Saturday night he seems to not know how to wrap up and hold on he tries to hit hard and bounce off or just miss.
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1354 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:40 am to
Physically is a problem for all areas of the team. Brian Kelly's teams have been the softest I have ever seen at LSU. They are not up to SEC physical standards and pushed around by all SEC opponents.

Let Tommy Moffitt go for this clown we have now.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168472 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:42 am to
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See this time and time again by Gilbert and Ryan.


There was a funny sequence i think in the second quarter where a Florida guy goes in motion. Sage signals for Gilbert to go with him. Gilbert’s like “bet.” Gilbert goes, the guy gets the ball, cuts through the hole and Gilbert goes low and misses him completely. He gets up after the guy is finally gang tackled 10 yards down field, looks at Ryan and they both kind of shrug.
Posted by Shrevepatch
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2015
268 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:47 am to
And less heralded guys like Jesse Daniels and Brandon Taylor were light years ahead of what we've got now.
Posted by Circumlocution
two doors down
Member since Sep 2024
156 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:47 am to
As has been stated on this board thousands of times, the word is 'soft'.
The front, the middle and the back end, all 'soft'. Whit may be the exception.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27062 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Safeties’ Physicality


LSU safety play has been the worst in the league the past two years.

The fact that other guys aren't at least getting rotation reps is worrying me for next season. There's no way the younger guys could play worse, and at a minimum, you might find a guy who plays with a little fire.

I have to believe Gilbert is protecting an injury. I don't think I've ever seen someone avoid contact at least to some extent like he does.

To be fair, the entire team lacks physicality. LSU is a finesse team. When teams bow up to them, they crumble. Major red flag when USC bullied LSU week 1. It turned out not to be a fluke.

eta. When your starting QB acts like he's injured every time he's tackled, that attitude permeates the team.

This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by lunchbox0479
Member since Dec 2022
320 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:54 am to
nobody on this team plays "nasty" Its charmin soft like their coach!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41667 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:57 am to
quote:

I have to believe Gilbert is protecting an injury. I don't think I've ever seen someone avoid contact at least to some extent like he does.


I believe that Someone reported a few weeks ago that he had a bum shoulder. Maybe someone else can confirm?
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
110328 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:19 am to
Gilbert is never in the right place at the right time and can’t make a tackle
Posted by 0jersey
Paradise
Member since Sep 2006
1915 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:31 am to
I actually watched the 2005 Peach Bowl the other day and the talent disparity we have now in the secondary is glaring.

Jesse Daniels was easily the worst player in secondary on that team amd he would be the best DB we have on this team by far.

The others were Prude, C. Jackson, Laron Landry.

Brandon Taylor would look like a 5 star on this team. Would kill to have a guy like that on this team as he was a great leader and could play ball.

It goes to show you how much talent we lack nowadays. It kills you when you get high 4/5 stars and they just either don’t play or pan out (Sage/Gilbert).


This is on Kelly for his poor initial defensive staff hires and I think that he either:

A) assumed that high level players just recruit themselves to LSU

B) underestimated the talent/depth of other rosters in the SEC

C) doesn’t have good talent evaluation as it compares to SEC competition vs talent he needed at ND

I suspect it’s mostly A and B as any coach can miss on guys and he has had some wins ala Mason Taylor and getting JD etc.
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