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Is this trade veto worthy?

Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:34 am
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7362 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:34 am
12 team, 2 QB league.

Last place teams gives up Darnold, Mike Evans, and Brock Bowers.

Sixth place team gives up Flacco, Waddle, and Ravens D

No keepers or anything.

Last place current team
Qb Darnold
Rb N Harris
Rb Chubb
Wr Puka
Wr DJ Moore
TE Bowers
Flex dowdle
OP Levis
D Chargers

Bench
M Evans
Tillman
Olave
Tracy Jr
Estime
C Rush
C Williams
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 7:11 am
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70873 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:02 am to
Any future picks or anything? Keeper ability?

I’d probably like to know what they are thinking.

I hate when people veto. But the only real justification for that is if someone needs a WR THIS weekend.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
8853 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:06 am to
Most trades shouldn’t be vetoed unless clear collusion

With that said.. giving up Evans and Bowers to get essentially just Waddle is a terrible trade. In last place for a reason.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36901 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:14 am to
Seems sketch by the last place team

Bowers just went through his bye and they held, do they have another TE 1?
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7362 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:19 am to
Just updated last place team in OP
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104230 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:20 am to
I would have serious questions and better get some answers. That's some bullshite.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70873 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:14 am to
Yeah that trade makes the worst team even worse. Just don’t see why they would do it. How far out of the playoff hunt are they? But even if close seems stupid to give up their only TE who is near the top of TEs to boot for waddle before you even include Evans.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50947 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:16 am to
Does the last place team even have a shot at the playoffs? If not, they shouldn’t be trading.

They’re making their team significantly worse and I’m guessing Evans and Bowers are both upgrades for the first place teams.

As a league mate, I’d be pissed.

ETA: Looking further, this definitely needs to be put to a league vote. Last place team is basically roster dumping.

Evans >>> Waddle
Bowers >>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever waiver TE
Chargers D >>> Ravens D
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:19 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104230 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:22 am to
Chargers D is arguably top 5 ROS and the Ravens D shouldn't be rostered.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72291 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:32 am to
i actually traded bowers away with andrews for two rbs in white and dowdle.

at first my league thought i was the questionable one trading away bowers, but rb was impossible to find. te is somewhat easy to replace streaming.

when they actually saw my team and the lack of rbs they understood it.

both white and dowdle did really well for me two weeks ago.

with that said, this trade here makes no sense. i also don't like the idea of vetoing unless it's really lopsided. this does seem questionable, but i guess they don't feel like they can wait on evans. that's a shame though. they should be able to pull more for him.

i tried to trade for evans this week in one league and the owner wanted my kyren williams. screw that.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14663 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:12 am to
Ravens D doesn't matter, QBs are a wash I think (unless Richardson is expected to start again?).... Waddle for bowers and Evans is straight up rape.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8728 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:27 am to
If you can make the argument that one team is giving up the 3 best assets in a 6 player trade...It's tough for me to think it isn't collusion. What answer could possibly justify this?

"I need a WR this week?"

I'm guessing Cedric Tillman is ranked ahead of Waddle everywhere this week.

So...what is the possible rationale here?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72291 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:44 am to
I am really trying to think outside the box here. Maybe he thinks Tyreek Hill will get shutdown making room for more Waddle targets. Maybe Tyreek could get surgery if they shut it down. And then he is also desperate for a WR now.

I would probably ask the guy in a chat setting about his thinking here.
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
2161 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 12:14 pm to
I made a trade for 3 injured guys for 4 starters and my trade was almost veto because I was getting the better players!

The team with the hurt players was about to be out of the running and have since gone 3-0 .

My team has struggled 1-2 since trade but it was all depth players that I gave up!

Trades are risky, so really no correct answer
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17371 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 12:19 pm to
I hate when trades are vetoed, but it is hard to justify that as anything but collusion.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36901 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:18 pm to
Flacco is benched, 100% veto IMO and last place team shouldn’t be trading at all unless there is a punishment for last place

Evans >>> Waddle
Bowers >>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever waiver TE
Chargers D >>> Ravens D
Darnold > Flacco

trade makes no sense other than to make team trading to better
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

last place team shouldn’t be trading at all unless there is a punishment for last place


Can’t force a team to give up if they are still alive to make the playoffs.

For this trade in particular, the owner needs to explain himself regarding the trade. This trade is lopsided and should be vetoed if they don’t have good reasoning.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72291 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 2:59 pm to
that's exactly what i would do. i would ask the last place team to explain their thinking behind such a trade.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38867 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 4:20 pm to
Is the last place team mathematically eliminated from the playoff picture?
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
805 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 6:20 pm to
Are yall friends? If not, I think a veto and not inviting him next year is warranted. Either he’s colluding with the other guy or he just doesn’t care anymore. Neither are in the spirit of the game.
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