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2 Democrats speak out against transgender athletes after Trump win

Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10673 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:54 am
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Two House Democrats said they oppose transgender athletes competing in women's sports in the immediate aftermath of President-elect Trump's decisive victory over Vice President Harris, shifting right of their previous policy positions and deepening fractures within a bruised Democratic Party.

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"The Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left," Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-N.Y.) told The New York Times on Wednesday. "I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." "Democrats aren't saying that, and they should be," said Suozzi, who narrowly won reelection Tuesday.

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Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) similarly blamed Harris and Democrats' unwillingness to move on trans athletes for the party's election night losses.

"Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face," Moulton told The New York Times Thursday. "I have two little girls, I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I'm supposed to be afraid to say that."

Moulton, like Suozzi, has voted with most other Democrats to safeguard transgender rights since his election to Congress in 2015. Twice, once in 2022 and again in 2023, he cosponsored House Democrats' Transgender Bill of Rights, which, among other protections, would guarantee trans athletes the right to participate on sports teams that match their gender identity.


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Posted by tiger 56
Severn, MD
Member since Dec 2003
1711 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:57 am to
Wait. This isn’t the Bee??!
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29587 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:58 am to
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"I have two little girls, I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I'm supposed to be afraid to say that."


1) There’s no such thing as “formerly male.” As long as you keep legitimizing that insanity it will keep being a problem.

2) As an adult leader, you should never be afraid to speak the truth against an ideology that is harmful to children. Such cowardice makes you unqualified to lead anyone or anything.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4046 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:01 am to
They were cowards, but at least they are trying.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9123 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:02 am to
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as a Democrat I'm supposed to be afraid to say that.


This is the problem with their party. They are exclusively catering to a minority fringe, and in doing so, they have turned off the American people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465428 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:03 am to
As I predicted, the move to moderation continues
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:03 am to
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They were cowards, but at least they are trying.


They get their time in the camps reduced by 50%
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465428 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:03 am to
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They are exclusively catering to a minority fringe


I predict that is going to decrease SEVERELY over the next 2 years
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9657 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:05 am to
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Two House Democrats said they oppose transgender athletes competing in women's sports in the immediate aftermath of President-elect Trump's decisive victory over Vice President Harris, shifting right of their previous policy positions and deepening fractures within a bruised Democratic Party.


All it takes is for someone to stand up and others, who were previously afraid will join them. Maybe, just maybe, some of the Dems who weren't so woke, but only fearful of retribution from their own party, are starting to see that they don't have to toe the extremist line.

This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 11:38 am
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5846 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:05 am to
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1) There’s no such thing as “formerly male.” As long as you keep legitimizing that insanity it will keep being a problem.


Damn straight, they are trying to test out new words, take a half step back, still same fckery going on in their warped minds.

No male is ever any type of woman.
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
5724 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:05 am to
A comment I read somewhere went something like this: there are no “formerly” male athletes. There are male athletes whose plastic surgeons were more skilled than their psychiatrists.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4857 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:07 am to
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1) There’s no such thing as “formerly male.” As long as you keep legitimizing that insanity it will keep being a problem.




Not gonna shite on people for moving in the right direction
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
1483 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:08 am to
Until they win an election. Then it's right back to the edge
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35502 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:11 am to
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I predict that is going to decrease SEVERELY over the next 2 years


I would disagree. I think the 2020 and 2024 elections were not as much about the policies or candidate, but more about the disapproval of the current administration. The pendulum is just swinging away from whoever is currently in power. I doubt Trump, who will be a thousand years old, will win another term. The democrats will win and it will embolden them and the republicans will make the same comments that they need to move more to the center. So liberals will move more left next time and conservatives will move more center.

I hope you are right. I’m just not sure I see that path from the political machines.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15908 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:11 am to
Big time cowards.

They knew it was wrong. Yet they voted yes multiple times.

That lack of strength is more concerning then getting it wrong and then figuring it out.

This means the will compromise their morality of pressure is brought to bear.

They are worthless.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21200 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:37 am to
Well frick them for not saying something sooner. I hope people still see them as supporters of it.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24288 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:53 am to
I always wondered what the thinking was behind the decision to go all in "trans" by the dems? The juice never seemed worth the squeeze.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1800 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

"I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." "Democrats aren't saying that, and they should be," said Suozzi, who narrowly won reelection Tuesday.


But you are discriminating - against the girls who want to play girls.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92311 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:15 pm to
Where were these two figs pre-election?

It’s easy to say it now because you had a referendum on your arse.
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