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HarrisHos when did it go so wrong for us?

Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:18 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:18 am
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:23 am to
All of those numbers are within the margin of fraud.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96614 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:41 am to
I hope polls are still underperforming Trump by 4-5 points like before.

If they are, he is outside the margin of fraud. If the race is truly that close, they will cheat enough to win
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32596 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:45 am to
quote:

I hope polls are still underperforming Trump by 4-5 points like before.

If they are, he is outside the margin of fraud. If the race is truly that close, they will cheat enough to win


I highly suspect that the major pollsters have adjusted over the last two or three cycles and are more accurately accounting for how Trump polls. We're likely seeing more accurate polling.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16597 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:55 am to
Many of the polls being used for the average are still using D+7.

They had to cheat last time when the D+7 polls had him down by 7-8 points going into the election. If those same polls have him tied or down 2 that means they have to manufacturer 5% additional votes to cover the difference.

It wasn’t easy even with Covid to cover what they had to do last time.

In Pennsylvania there were 6.8M votes cast in 2020. To cover a 5% deficit means they have to manufacture 340,000 votes on top of what they had to do last time to put Biden over the top.

Not saying they can’t do it, but it’s no easy feat.
Posted by caliegeaux
Booo Cheeeen
Member since Aug 2004
11481 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:33 am to
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In Pennsylvania there were 6.8M votes cast in 2020. To cover a 5% deficit means they have to manufacture 340,000 votes on top of what they had to do last time to put Biden over the top.

Not saying they can’t do it, but it’s no easy feat.


we're going to see lots of "115% voter turnout" numbers in the following days.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 9:34 am
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:34 am to
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HarrisHos when did it go so wrong for us?

When Harris opened her mouth
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
12925 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:06 am to
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HarrisHos when did it go so wrong for us?


At birth.

Brought into this world by shitty parents.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15048 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:13 am to
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I highly suspect that the major pollsters have adjusted over the last two or three cycles and are more accurately accounting for how Trump polls. We're likely seeing more accurate polling


I honestly don’t know how you would do it. I’m not a statistician, but it seems like it’s so hard to gauge who is going to vote for Trump.

I mean who answers polls anyway?

It’s hard to imagine any kind of formula they could come up with to be accurate.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
9142 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:42 pm to
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I highly suspect that the major pollsters have adjusted over the last two or three cycles and are more accurately accounting for how Trump polls. We're likely seeing more accurate polling.


This would mean pollsters have abandoned their propaganda. I don't buy it.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2536 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:44 pm to
What were they this time in 2020?
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