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Putin Orders Third Troop Expansion Of War, Making Army 2nd Largest After China's

Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by BobBoucher
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:30 am to
Can they do it? Whose left? They already emptied the prisons.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:31 am to
Putin will eventually lose support.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:31 am to
The OT Warriors said Russia was running outnof food water ammo money and men?

How is this possible
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:32 am to
When has Russia ever run out of bodies to send into the meat grinder?
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:37 am to
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Can they do it? Whose left? They already emptied the prisons.
Rundstedt, von Kleist, and Halder thought the same thing.

Just sayin'

Manpower has never really been their issue, imperial or soviet era.

Now having said that, IF Putin doesn't have full control he will not, eventually, have that near-unlimited access to manpower that the Tsars and Politburo had. This might be that line; be interesting to watch.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:43 am to
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Putin will eventually lose support

Wrong. Their motherland is being threatened. It’s the equivalent of Russia arming the Mexican cartels to shoot their long range missiles, guided by Russian satellites, to hit Austin, Dallas, and Houston.

This isn’t a geopolitical conflict to Russia. It’s an existential threat.

This administration needs to wake up so we can continue to enjoy this planet and not all get vaporized over Ukraine
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:44 am to
Wee wee and the OT warmongers gon be pissed

Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:45 am to
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Rundstedt, von Kleist, and Halder thought the same thing.

Just sayin'

Manpower has never really been their issue, imperial or soviet era.

Now having said that, IF Putin doesn't have full control he will not, eventually, have that near-unlimited access to manpower that the Tsars and Politburo had.


Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. Hitler and Napolean timed it wrong and biffed the invasion. On the other hand Nicholas III was a mess and lost his crown and his dynasty when the troops got sick of the war.

Long story short, Russia has never really been our friend, only an ally of convenience once a century. We should stop pretending like regime change is going to change much. If Putin dies tomorrow, the next guy is going to legitimize his rule by telling his people that he is fighting the Imperialist Satan or whatever they call America these days.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:47 am
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:51 am to
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Wrong. Their motherland is being threatened.


No it’s not lol. If Russia truly believed this was an existential threat, then they’d react a lot more wildly than what we’re seeing out of them. This is a very easy case of a Geopolitical War.

Now for Ukraine, it can easily be argued that their very existence is on the line, and Russia is an existential threat to them.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Their motherland is being threatened. It’s the equivalent of Russia arming the Mexican cartels to shoot their long range missiles, guided by Russian satellites, to hit Austin, Dallas, and Houston.

This isn’t a geopolitical conflict to Russia. It’s an existential threat.

Wait, what?

A more apt description would be the US invading Sonora, Baja, Chihuana, and Sinaloa for no rational reason, and then getting upset if Mexico invaded Cameron County, TX, in response.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:03 am to
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Putin will eventually lose support


Lol.... Keep telling yourself that! Russians are much more unified around their leadership than Americans are around theirs, although that's not saying much.
My understanding is that common, everyday Russians see America and the west as the aggressors and the instigators of the conflict.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30912 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:04 am to
Back the guy into a corner that has 1,000 nukes. Seems really rational behavior.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:04 am to
Meanwhile our military has been hollowed out to pre-WWII levels.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:05 am to
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A more apt description would be the US invading Sonora, Baja, Chihuana, and Sinaloa for no rational reason


Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77083 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:05 am to
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The OT Warriors said Russia was running outnof food water ammo money and men? How is this possible


Both sides are being funded by the same people per the usual.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465551 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:08 am to
Well their instigation in 2014 leading to Maidan had a rational reasoning (thwarting EU integration of Ukraine).

There's nothing really there for this latest invasion. The little bit of territory they likely end up with as satellite states aren't THAT productive.

Unless they think they can get a permanent agreement from Ukraine not to integrate with the EU, which seems unlikely at this point.

They can probably get one for NATO, but nobody actually cares about Ukraine being in NATO.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:09 am
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:10 am to
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but nobody actually cares about Ukraine being in NATO.


Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:10 am to
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They can probably get one for NATO, but nobody actually cares about Ukraine being in NATO


Putin cares very much about Ukraine becoming part of NATO
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:11 am to

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