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Watching Nuss from Willy B Stadium

Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:08 am
First, I enjoyed Columbia. Great atmosphere for a 12pm EST game!

On thing I noticed out of Nuss is if he held on to the football a few times, he had multiple opportunities to extend drives and/or score himself with his legs, especially in the red zone.

He’s athletic (not JD great with his legs) and could offer more opportunities running himself (fake handoffs, misdirection, etc).

TD agree with this?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5904 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:10 am to
They may have told him not to run and take damage whenever possible just because we are toast if Nuss goes down. At least with JD, if he went down, you had a competent backup in Nuss behind him. If Nuss goes down, Rickie is still really green and Swann couldn't beat him out.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21291 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:11 am to
I agree he could pull the ball down and run more. Yesterday's game was one of them. He had opportunities to do harm with his legs but chose not to. I think that him giving the D reason to be worried helps other aspects of our offense.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
45633 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:12 am to
He’s gotta add some escape and run to his game. He’s not a 6’5” pocket guy like Rothlesburger.

Also his accuracy falls off a cliff on the rollouts. Needs to be able to tuck and run.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23471 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:14 am to
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They may have told him not to run and take damage whenever possible just because we are toast if Nuss goes down.




I agree btw. I just think it’s Kelly’s soft approach overall. You’ll end up losing more than winning if you scheme scared of the what ifs. Just my opinion
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
3927 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:21 am to
Nuss has real Jarrett Lee energy out there. Constantly throwing off his back foot regardless of pressure, throwing up some absolute ducks under pressure. If it weren’t for some questionable technicalities on the horse collar and block calls, that’d have been a 14 point swing.

Don’t get me wrong, obviously he’s our best option and some of this might improve with experience, but I think that we should steel ourselves for some head-scratching plays.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3522 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:48 am to
Agree... he loses accuracy when he doesn't set his feet and throws off of his back foot; yes, he must tuck it and run sometime, otherwise he is playing into the hands of the defense; I think he could develop into a top-notch QB if he would work on his feet mechanics and take off running a few times
Posted by algiers123
Member since Sep 2024
101 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:57 am to
Agreed he is a beat behind the play. I assume this will improve with more playing time. What bothers me is his mechanics will drop away at key moments. I think he thinks he's "improvising", but it really just amounts to backpedaling and slow mechanics. He is still thinking too much. Again, with more snaps this should improve. Nuss is plenty smart and talented. It's just a matter of how quickly he reaches the next stage.
Posted by blacroix
Member since Sep 2019
517 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:01 am to
quote:

They may have told him not to run and take damage whenever possible just because we are toast if Nuss goes down. At least with JD, if he went down, you had a competent backup in Nuss behind him. If Nuss goes down, Rickie is still really green and Swann couldn't beat him out.


This is very true. A bunch of people are screaming for read options and Nuss to scramble more but there is no safety net if he goes down. Play calling benefited last year because having Nuss to back up allowed for a more aggressive approach with Daniels' legs.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30862 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:09 am to
quote:

On thing I noticed out of Nuss is if he held on to the football a few times, he had multiple opportunities to extend drives and/or score himself with his legs, especially in the red zone.


Drew Breesish.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
45633 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:14 am to
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This is very true. A bunch of people are screaming for read options and Nuss to scramble more but there is no safety net if he goes down.


Do you think having a guy being a sitting duck between the tackles has less chance of getting hurt?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87318 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:16 am to
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Willy B Stadium


Fun fact: The Cockpit nickname was created by Paul Dietzel when he was the HC there. Partially based upon the fact that he flew B-29s in WWII.
Posted by blacroix
Member since Sep 2019
517 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:33 am to
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Do you think having a guy being a sitting duck between the tackles has less chance of getting hurt?


Do you think running him more doesn't?
Posted by Chipeace
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
494 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:31 am to
His passing skills and decision making are not at j Daniel’s level yet.
Posted by Itwasacleantackle
B.F.E.
Member since Aug 2019
525 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:04 am to
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His passing skills and decision making are not at j Daniel’s level yet.

It took JD a full year to really get there as a passer. Nuss is a few steps ahead of where JD was coming in (as a passer), so I expect him to improve a lot over the course of the season.
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:10 am to
Oh great the thousandth thread pretending to have a new take by crying that Nuss isn't running and making excuses to bring up Jayden (apparently the only running qb you know).
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Nuss has real Jarrett Lee energy out there.


No, he doesn't.

quote:

If it weren’t for some questionable technicalities on the horse collar and block calls, that’d have been a 14 point swing.



They weren't questionable.

quote:

our best option


He's one of the best qbs in the country.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:28 am to
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full year


Took him 5 actually.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13992 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:48 am to
Interesting Fact!
Daniels was criticized for not being patient until the receiver worked his way open, for one season and three games into the next., Instead, he would use his legs. Once he developed patience and was willing to throw the ball down field, he became the best QB in CFB.
Now Nuss is doing the opposite. Hopefully he matures quickly.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1683 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:28 pm to
quote:


Interesting Fact!
Daniels was criticized for not being patient until the receiver worked his way open, for one season and three games into the next., Instead, he would use his legs. Once he developed patience and was willing to throw the ball down field, he became the best QB in CFB.
Now Nuss is doing the opposite. Hopefully he matures quickly.


This * 1000.

I don't care how long Nuss has been a backup, that's a far cry from being QB1 and taking all the snaps during a real game. It takes time to learn how to actually play the position when you're the man in charge. Burrow and Daniels are prime examples of this.

The skillset is there, now it just needs some seasoning in real games plus some coaching along the way. I have no doubt that if he takes that opportunity he will improve greatly - hopefully this year, but more likely next year when he has a full year of tape to go over with his coaches and trainers.

And, yes, I know that doesn't do anything for the "BK year 3 gotta win NOW!" crowd, but this was always going to be a ground-up rebuild. So far, most realistic folks would say we're ahead of the curve.

As long as BK doesn't revert to Les and O levels of bone-headedness and stubborn streaks, I'm willing to give him until at least the end of the '25 season before passing judgement.

Just my opinion.
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