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The Byzantine Empire suggestions

Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:02 pm
I just finished "The History of Rome" podcast and listened to Mike Duncan's book The Storm Before the Storm. I want to take it all the way to the end of Rome. Im ready for the next 1000 year plunge into the Byzantine Empire.

Does anyone have a good comprehensive book or podcast recommendation?

Amazon/Google come up with a few suggestions, but I don't want to waste time if there's a really good option out there.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4104 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:44 pm to
This is not strictly Byzantine, but I just finished City of Fortune: How Venice Ruled the Seas.

It covers the period when Venice and the Crusaders sacked Constantinople through the period when the Turks took over. It's a pretty quick read and almost read like fiction at times.
Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1533 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:19 pm to
Lars Brownworth has a podcast called 12 Byzantine Emperors and a book entitled Lost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire that Rescued Western Civilation.

I enjoyed them both.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 5:07 pm to
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Lost to the West: The Forgotten Byzantine Empire that Rescued Western Civilation.


That was an Amazon suggestion.

I did find “The History of the Byzantine Empire” podcast. The podcaster openly states he’s picking up where Duncan left off History of Rome, but he’s 300+ episodes in and still going. That’s 150+ hours of listening. I don’t think I’m up for it. I’ll try your suggestion. Thanks
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:53 pm to
Adrian goldsworthy has a bunch of books on Rome/the republic

I’m listening to one now about the fall of Carthage and the Punic wars

Maybe scroll through and see if any of his tickle your fancy
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36643 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Adrian goldsworthy has a bunch of books on Rome/the republic


Mary Beard SPQR is absolutely fan frickin tastic. Tom Holland rubicon is pretty good as well.
This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
34983 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:25 pm to
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Mary Beard SPQR is absolutely fan frickin tastic.


I did this one as an audiobook last year for the work commute and I got nothing out of it . I felt it should’ve been better than i thought it was

Maybe I wasn’t paying enough attention or it was the woman reading it.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36643 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

I did this one as an audiobook last year for the work commute and I got nothing out of it


This isn’t the kind of book I can do on audiobook.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54992 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 11:24 am to
Cant read about the Fourth Crusade. Too damn disgusted by it.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80488 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:19 pm to


This is the book you’re looking for.

Kenneth Harl does a great lecture series on the Byzantine Empire on the Great Courses
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
146 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 5:10 pm to
I’ve listened to 180 episodes of The History of Byzantium podcast. It is incredibly detailed and well researched. Perhaps too detailed. My prior knowledge of the Byzantines was very superficial with a few key events. This may be too detailed. Assasinations, arranged marriages of political expedience, invasions and counter attacks began to run together. That said, I have much more appreciation of the Balkans and Eastern Europe than ever. I’d like a more condensed version and would use episodes of this podcast to fill in details where interested.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Perhaps too detailed


That's what I was worried about. Duncan in History of Rome gave tons of detail and spent a lot of time where it was warranted, but he moved the sotry along well. Also, there was little srouce material for the earlier years. I think I would get burnt out on 300 episodes and climbing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76043 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:07 pm to
there is The History of Byzantium which is ment to be direct follow up to History of Rom.

it’s not Mike Duncan. He went on and did Revolutions, which i strongly recommend, but it is interesting.

especially if you are interested in early eastern orthodox church history.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:07 pm to
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Revolutions, which i strongly recommend, but it is interesting.


I’m Napoleon in Egypt deep into Revolutions
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80488 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:01 pm to
Did you ever read any of the suggested books? Lost to the West is such an easy read.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:24 pm to
Not yet. Lost to the West in my queue

Im reading The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku in the mean time. Ill definitely report back once I get to Lost to the West.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33940 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
I just finished Lost to the West.

I think it was a great mix of historical summary and story telling. I knew how the story ended, but it was still gut wrenching to listen to when it went into decline.

I think I need a break from history for a while.
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