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Question for HOTD book readers
Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:04 pm
In the book did Daemon's dreams/hallucinations feel more organic than they do in the TV show? I may be in the minority but they just feel out of place, useful probably but odd.
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:12 pm to Obtuse1
The show made up 90% of what daemon does at garden hall, including the dreams
Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:19 pm to Obtuse1
Yea, none of that shite happened in the books and turned me off because it just felt like lazy filler.
Reminds me of those nerds for Rings of Power, “back to the book, back to the book…”
Except they went with some book about addiction or something
Reminds me of those nerds for Rings of Power, “back to the book, back to the book…”
Except they went with some book about addiction or something
Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:43 pm to Obtuse1
I’ve read the book a few times.
Daemon didn’t have this whole internal struggle by that time that they’re trying to sell now.
Daemon didn’t have this whole internal struggle by that time that they’re trying to sell now.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:24 am to Obtuse1
It never happened. The book is a "recount" of what happened from the viewpoint of a court jester and a maester, so neither one of those people would be privy to the dreams of a character. The book is essentially a history, with very little conversation or insight into the "why" things happened.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:27 am to Obtuse1
That shite ran on for so long.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:29 am to Epic Cajun
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The book is essentially a history, with very little conversation or insight into the "why" things happened.
This. It's like reading an encyclopedia more than a story
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:32 am to Obtuse1
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In the book did Daemon's dreams/hallucinations feel more organic than they do in the TV show
In the book Daemon goes to Harrenhal and raises an army. Thats it. The Hallucination BS was clearly a mechanism to draw the story out because HBO slashed their budget and they couldn't afford 2 battles in season 2.
My issue isn't that they had to stretch it out for budget reasons. Its that they did a horrible job at it. The character development was terrible and we don't really learn a whole lot about the characters either. They just kind of went in circles and made everyone look stupid.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:55 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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The character development was terrible
Agreed, I'm rewatching GoT right now and it is so much better than HotD.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:12 am to Epic Cajun
Which version of the Eyrie is best?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:15 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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My issue isn't that they had to stretch it out for budget reasons. Its that they did a horrible job at it
I mean they got more money per episode than the final season of Game of Thrones. The final season of GoT was incredibly bad, but a ton of expensive stuff happened in that season. Yes, HotD had some budget cuts, but it's still pretty easy to look around and think "where did all the money go?" when you consider how much they actually got. It was an extremely expensive season of TV.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:36 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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My issue isn't that they had to stretch it out for budget reasons. Its that they did a horrible job at it. The character development was terrible and we don't really learn a whole lot about the characters either. They just kind of went in circles and made everyone look stupid.
I think they just got stuck in a poor position of not being able to advance Daemon out of Harrenhal for so long because they couldn't advance the rest of the story fast enough due to the reduction in episodes of the season.
The more I think about it and read about it, that Discovery CEO Twat likely told them those cuts were coming AFTER they had the story written and planned out for 10 episodes.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:43 am to Corinthians420
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Which version of the Eyrie is best?
And which season of TV was better?
Nobody cares that the Eyrie looked better on a 5 second fly by shot in HotD. I'd much rather a better written show with an Eyrie that looks like S1 of GoT than a badly written show with great visuals.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:56 am to Corinthians420
The season 1 version is the closest to the book and that narrow, butthole puckering, ledge you had to navigate to actually get to the Eyrie.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:27 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Nobody cares that the Eyrie looked better on a 5 second fly by shot in HotD. I'd much rather a better written show with an Eyrie that looks like S1 of GoT than a badly written show with great visuals.
or a show that major locations dont look inexplicably WAY different from year to year
Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:42 pm to Obtuse1
i haven't finished the season and likely won't
The dream and internal struggle stuff is pretty true to GRRM's writing.
It is great in feast during Cersei's meltdown. It is terrible with everything Dany
The dream and internal struggle stuff is pretty true to GRRM's writing.
It is great in feast during Cersei's meltdown. It is terrible with everything Dany
Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:44 pm to Sam Quint
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show that major locations dont look inexplicably WAY different from year to year
At least someone got the point
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:21 pm to Corinthians420
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At least someone got the point
perhaps we're not so different, you and i...
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:41 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I think they just got stuck in a poor position of not being able to advance Daemon out of Harrenhal for so long because they couldn't advance the rest of the story fast enough due to the reduction in episodes of the season.
So you believe with more episodes in the season they would have gotten Daemon out of Harrenhal sooner?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 2:47 pm to Adam Banks
It's pretty simple. they wanted him to stay in Harrenhal and raise an army but also wanted to use the actor a lot so someone just wrote up a story involving him that shows how Harrenhal is haunted.
They can't. They have to wait until after the battle of the Gullet for him to leave Harrenhal. That battle was cut from this season.
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they would have gotten Daemon out of Harrenhal sooner?
They can't. They have to wait until after the battle of the Gullet for him to leave Harrenhal. That battle was cut from this season.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 3:14 pm
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