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Door to door salesman - trespassing

Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:11 am
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2541 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:11 am
Louisiana trespassing law seems to grant an exemption to unsolicited salesmen entering your property.

https://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=78584

quote:

F. The following persons may enter or remain upon immovable property of another, unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner or other person with authority, either orally or in writing:

(3) Any person making a delivery, soliciting, selling any product or service, conducting a survey or poll, a real estate licensee or other person who has a legitimate reason for making a delivery, conducting business or communicating with the owner, lessee, custodian or a resident of the immovable property, and who, immediately upon entry, seeks to make the delivery, to conduct business or to conduct the communication.


My question is whether a 'no trespassing' sign would remove their exemption to enter the property. I get that they're going to ignore any signs, but I'd like to know.

quote:

J. Although not required by this Section, notice that entrance upon any structure, watercraft, movable, or immovable property owned by another is prohibited may be indicated by either of the following:

(1) A sign or signs posted on or in the property at a place or places where such sign or signs may be reasonably expected to be seen.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19436 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:12 am to
Just don’t answer the door.

Never understood why people get so bothered over this
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15692 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:13 am to
If you have a clearly visible ‘No Solicitation’ sign then a door to door salesman is, by law, trespassing.

Posted by RonFNSwanson
1739 mi from the University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
24106 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

My question is whether a 'no trespassing' sign would remove their exemption to enter the property. I get that they're going to ignore any signs, but I'd like to know.

quote:

unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18736 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:17 am to
The Vivint guys coming by at 8PM is really getting old.
I'm fine with people leaving door hangers but don't you dare knock.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:17 am to
You ever seen Secondhand Lions?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58174 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:18 am to
I love getting into arguments with Jehovah’s Witnesses
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7858 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:18 am to
Our neighborhood has a collective no soliciting policy. We still have to run them out from time to time despite signage at both entrances to our neighborhood
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18907 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:20 am to
Lighten up. How else you expect to get the world's year-old news and facts without Brittanica? Your kids need to write those reports for school.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2541 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Just don’t answer the door.

Never understood why people get so bothered over this


It's an interruption and they have no business being on my property. They interrupt homework, naps, dinner, work, etc...

I don't get mad about it, but it's ridiculous to not understand why it bothers people.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2541 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:29 am to
quote:

unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner


That's the question, I guess. Is a 'no trespassing' sign specifically forbidding them from entering the property? I have no idea.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56262 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If you have a clearly visible ‘No Solicitation’ sign then a door to door salesman is, by law, trespassing.


no. not a door to door salesman. I have a “no solicitation” sign. Your interpretation of the law is flat out wrong.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14281 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If you have a clearly visible ‘No Solicitation’ sign then a door to door salesman is, by law, trespassing.

I have one and they still knock or leave shite. Less often than before I had the sign, so I guess it scares some off. I'm not petty enough to call the police over a solicitor, so no experience with involving the law.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58174 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:32 am to
They’re going to knock or ring your doorbell anyway. My neighbor has a no soliciting sign and they always disturb him. I have many Catholic articles on my front porch and the jehovah’s are convinced they’re going to convert me.

Best thing is to not answer, which is what I do now.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2541 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:33 am to
quote:

I'm not petty enough to call the police over a solicitor, so no experience with involving the law.


Neither am I. Just wonder if a no trespassing sign would scare them off a little more than the no soliciting sign.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8137 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:34 am to
Look, when it’s 7:00 I’m trying wind down from work and relax and some jackass rings my door bell despite the sign saying no soliciting, dogs start barking, you bet your arse I’m gonna be pissed.

I don’t want your solar panels, windows, AC service, etc., frick off and get of my property.

This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20610 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:37 am to
Looks like it's spelled out for you in the portion you quoted.
quote:

The following persons may enter or remain upon immovable property of another, unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner or other person with authority, either orally or in writing:

With that said, even if it is deemed trespassing, I have a feeling it will be one of those non-enforced laws unless the person hangs around and waits for the cops. And even then, it most likely will be "let me get your information", "don't do it again", "you can leave" type of warnings.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20051 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Just don’t answer the door.

Never understood why people get so bothered over this


Two reasons for me

1) They knock / hit the doorbell which inevitably occurs after we put our kids to sleep causing chaos (especially with our dog)

2) We have two big bay doors at the front of our house. Not ideal when random people come and hang about on our porch.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35666 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Just don’t answer the door.

Never understood why people get so bothered over this

I have young children, so the idiots from whatever pest control is currently plaguing Baton Rouge, or Vivint, beating on my door or ringing the bell at 8:30 on a weeknight pisses me off greatly.
Posted by GreatestStory
Member since Feb 2011
261 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:38 am to
Serious question: What exactly are you looking to see happen? ...or is this just hypothetical?

Do you want them arrested for breaking the law (trespassing)?

Yes, it is annoying, but seems like it would take a lot less time to just ignore the knocking/doorbell rather than reporting them for trespassing, having the police show up, and then writing a statement for law enforcement that will lead to absolutely nothing happening.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 9:42 am
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