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3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1560 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:37 pm
At the time, when Les Miles was still coaching LSU, it drove me batshite crazy when Leslie would just line up and run into a nine man box. The opposite has happened the last couple of seasons, and that is LSU being unable to run between the tackles to pick up a 3rd and 2.

I don't think we'll ever go back to the Les Miles philosophy, but I do think that this year there will be a more concerted effort to be more balanced. With the offensive line LSU returns, and with a stable of good (to great) rb's, I think they will lean more heavily on the run game this year.

The value of a long, physical drive cannot be over-stated. Especially in college where depth really does matter. Here's an example of how this might benefit LSU with their upcoming schedule.

Ole Miss has a very good starting defense; however, once you get beyond the starting 11, the quality of that defense drops off dramatically. A physical run game might be just the ticket to neutralize their defense (and offense for that matter).

I don't ever want to see the "Les Miles Philosophy" again, but I am looking forward to a physical, down hill run game this year.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44453 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:43 pm to
Hate to say, I think we're in for a long year.

QB solid
RB potentially solid
WR very much unproven except Lacy appears ready
OL very solid

DL unknown
LB Perkins very solid, others unknown
DB unknown

That's a lot of question marks.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20013 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:48 pm to
Tons of questions.
Could easily drop 3-5 games.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11700 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

That's a lot of question marks.

Doesn’t automatically mean the answer will be bad. I expect our defense to be “better” than last year (which isn’t saying much). We will know after the USC game
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44453 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Doesn’t automatically mean the answer will be bad. I expect our defense to be “better” than last year (which isn’t saying much). We will know after the USC game
Agree, doesn't mean bad. Hope I'm wrong but we'll see. If DL steps up, that will help the shaky secondary as well.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6234 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Hate to say, I think we're in for a long year.

QB solid
RB potentially solid
WR very much unproven except Lacy appears ready
OL very solid

DL unknown
LB Perkins very solid, others unknown
DB unknown

That's a lot of question marks.


You left off the coaching changes. I believe that those changes, especially on the defensive side, will offset many of the inadequacies in personnel. Many a mediocre player has done well because the right coach put him in the right spot.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50852 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:05 pm to
LSU is definitely gonna run the ball more this season to help keep the defense off the field
Kelly has already mentioned it in press conferences about complementing the defense
I don't expect Miles style of play but last year it was having to outscore everyone, this year not so much
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6708 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

I don't think we'll ever go back to the Les Miles philosophy, but I do think that this year there will be a more concerted effort to be more balanced. With the offensive line LSU returns, and with a stable of good (to great) rb's, I think they will lean more heavily on the run game this year


We were actually really balanced last year.

Balance doesn’t really mean an equal number of passing plays and running plays. Or even fairly equal yardage on the ground and air.

Balance is being able to run or throw with equal effectiveness based on what is happening in the game. That’s it. Some games you really rely on the pass, others the run.

Ideally “ballance” is the offense dictating the pace to the defense.

Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21726 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:17 pm to
IMO, we must be a very effective running team....and we should be able to do so with the O-line we got.
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1481 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:44 pm to
Wr: daniels had 1k yds and 10 tds, last year, and zavion had 500 yds in a horrible offense. Those 3 + hilton/ anderson are 5 jr-srs with lot of games under their belt.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32153 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Tons of questions.
Could easily drop 3-5 games.


True.

But, LSU is not competing in a vacuum. Other teams have questions too.

USC has almost the exact same questions as LSU

UCLA had a HC that didn't want to recruit or be a HC leave right before spring ball.

@ Florida, Arkansas, South Carolina, A&M. ALL have questions. Do you see certain multple losses there?

Alabama, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Vandy.

Ole Miss has not won in BR since 2008...and there have been a few solid OM teams come through. A certain dark emperor will not be roaming the sidelines for Alabama this year. And he lost to a "rebuilding" LSU team last time he was in BR. Vandy is Vandy. OU has questions and LSU will be the last game of a brutal stretch for them.

Yes, LSU has questions....but so does everyone else.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32153 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

We were actually really balanced last year.

Balance doesn’t really mean an equal number of passing plays and running plays. Or even fairly equal yardage on the ground and air.

Balance is being able to run or throw with equal effectiveness based on what is happening in the game. That’s it. Some games you really rely on the pass, others the run.

Ideally “ballance” is the offense dictating the pace to the defense.


Yeah, LSU wasn't particularly "balanced" last year from a scheme standpoint. They just had a QB who could, any often did, turn a called pass play into a run. The running game outside of Daniels was pretty average and I'm pretty confident in saying it wouldn't have been a strong point of the offense if Daniels wasn't the one doing most of the running.

He had nearly as many rushing attempts on his own as Williams, Emery, Cain, Jackson, COMBINED.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
8821 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:29 pm to
Lesticles learned from Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes. A lot of teams (Nebraska, etc.) followed that mantra of getting/building great O-lines and punishing the defense, especially in the second half of games. I grew up an Ohio State fan and don't even remember if they had any really great WRs. Moved from Ohio to NO/BR and became a Tiger...
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24615 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:41 pm to
That Les Miles offensive game plan would be a winner vs USC. Wear them down with the run game, keep the USC offense off the field, and let the LSU Offensive Line feast on a weak USC defense.
Posted by TheGeauxt18
Member since Aug 2018
331 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

QB solid
RB deep
WR solid and deep (this is a top 5 WR corps nationally with 3 very talented receiving tight ends that could all produce)
OL arguably best in nation

DL unknown
LB Perkins, Weeks, Penn solid
DB Stamps good, others unknown


FIFY
Posted by jbeard
Member since Nov 2007
869 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:00 pm to
I wouldn’t mind seeing them pound the rock a little this year.
It takes advantage of their strength on offensive line. Plus, they have some backs who run hard.
It would also help open things up for play action, make for easier throwing lanes for a QB and WRs who are less experienced playing together entering the season, compared to the group we had last year.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59512 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Hate to say, I think we're in for a long year.

QB solid
RB potentially solid
WR very much unproven except Lacy appears ready
OL very solid

DL unknown
LB Perkins very solid, others unknown
DB unknown

That's a lot of question marks.


I don't disagree with your analysis although I'd point to the interior DL as known and bad, and the Cornerbacks known and bad.

The question is what you mean by "long year" though.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12061 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

3 yards and a cloud of dust.


I agree LSU should run as much as possible this year, as long as it works. Did you hear that Les Miles - AS LONG AS IT WORKS!!!
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32066 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

WR very much unproven


lol what?


Between Lacy, Daniels, Thomas that’s 2,000 yards and 20 tds just last season alone
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted by boratlsu
LaPlace
Member since Oct 2009
165 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:18 pm to
Watched the entire bowl game from last season last Sunday. Was not impressed with what the great o-line did in run support. Pretty good pass blocking but no holes for running backs. This has to improve for your desired offense to work
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