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Listened to Hunt Palmer talking LSU practice about DBs

Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:51 pm
and he was saying they were literally non existent on the field at practice as if Nuss was throwing to receivers who have nobody covering them…

How much water weight does this actually hold? I know he’s an ESPN radio guy and shite, but should we take the wait and see approach or be alarmed?
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2585 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:52 pm to
They getting torched 1v1. In team sessions, they have been winning some battles and being competitive. .
Posted by bayoubengal225
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2009
5341 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:53 pm to
And a lot of the other reports said the complete opposite - when they went to the 11 on 11 portion the defense actually won the practice.

Hunt Palmer is great, but he is a fan. He will give an emotional opinion.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75858 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:54 pm to
Our corners were bad last year.

We only added corners that have never played college football.

There is no way for the new guys to gain experience without the actual experience. So if the corners from last year didn't improve themselves, I'm not sure why we would wait and see on anything.
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2490 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:54 pm to
From the VERY limited clips I’ve seen the DBs are in decent position but our receivers are making fantastic catches.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Listened to Hunt Palmer talking LSU practice about DBs


Kind of getting tired of his takes

Seems like he is intentionally trying to set the bar low or maybe he is still scarred from last year
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94735 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Our defense were bad last year.


I'm okay singling out the corners if you want, but there was little on the airframe that was good.

Fair to say run defense was mediocre-to-bad in 2023 and pass defense was worse?

Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
12614 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:01 pm to
Or maybe he’s giving an honest real opinion since this is practically the same exact clown show of a secondary as they had last year.


I actually believe him because I’m sure he’s not sugar coating it like most want to do.
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4439 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Hunt Palmer is great, but he is a fan. He will give an emotional opinion.


and he constantly acknowledges that w/ numerous disclaimers and qualifiers and repeats he is giving his impressions of the day.

he is asked to report his impressions and does so without pronouncing them TRUTH. I like his demeanor, delivery and content and think he's one of the best on BR radio.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10800 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

They getting torched 1v1.


And WRs are supposed to win these. They know it’s man with no other defenders. Offense has all advantage in these.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10389 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

They getting torched 1v1. In team sessions, they have been winning some battles and being competitive.


The 1v1’s are to be expected with the talent gap we have at WR and DB right now. It just is what it is. Looking better in team sessions gives me confidence our coaching will have our defense in the right position to succeed. Last year the defense was getting torched in just about every aspect of practice lol.
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17007 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

And WRs are supposed to win these. They know it’s man with no other defenders. Offense has all advantage in these.

We know and Hunt acknowledges this every time he speaks on it. The problem is last year it was the exact same thing and people excused it. They do though seam to be improving in 11 v 11 which is what Hunt said yesterday. So that’s a good sign.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10800 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:10 pm to
According to Scone, offense wins most 1v1s across the board. They should, they’re more talented across the board. But when the defense is winning 45+% of the reps in teams?!? I’ll take it.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53866 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:12 pm to
I don't see how the secondary can be worse then last season but I would probably lean to Hunt's opinion that there is reason for concern back there.

At a minimum you do bring back some experience at both CB and S so hopefully that will pay dividends.

I do think the scheme should help neutralize some of those weaknesses on the back end but a lot will depend on how much pressure the front can generate and the dline might be more important in slowing down teams so that 3rd down becomes easier for the defense to manage.

Posted by ipodking
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Member since Jun 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
It’s the same DBs from the worst secondary in LSU history

Expecting some jump is ridiculous.

It’ll be two years before Corey restocks the secondary back to DBU standards
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20061 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
Could be like 2019 where defense was allegedly getting torched and then it turned out to be the GOAT offense.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24491 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Our corners were bad last year.

We only added corners that have never played college football.

There is no way for the new guys to gain experience without the actual experience. So if the corners from last year didn't improve themselves, I'm not sure why we would wait and see on anything.


Correct

Now change CB to pretty much every position on the field

People's expectations are not based in reality. Future talent at some positions got better, but not enough without experience to get the results that are being discussed.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27110 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Kind of getting tired of his takes

Seems like he is intentionally trying to set the bar low or maybe he is still scarred from last year


Based on reports, it sounds like his concerns are warranted when they are doing 2v2 or 1v1, even some 7v7, but when the team goes 11v11, the defense is getting some wins, which is ultimately all that matters.

This defense was never going to be anywhere near great. LSU just needs them to be middle of the pack in the SEC.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61269 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

There is no way for the new guys to gain experience without the actual experience. So if the corners from last year didn't improve themselves, I'm not sure why we would wait and see on anything.
The biggest difference coaching can make this season is to cut down on the blown assignments by the DB's. That could literally be the difference between being the 120th D and the 60th

You could take the same corners from last year, they could have not improved skill wise at all, and we are substantially better if they just know their assignment.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15990 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

it sounds like his concerns are warranted when they are doing 2v2 or 1v1, even some 7v7,


It would be more concerning if our offense was struggling in those drills.

Thinking our defensive backs won’t improve at all after last year just seems silly.
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