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No Equipment Food Plot
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:19 pm
Got a small piece of family property that I’ve been hunting the past couple seasons. There is an area that used to be planted as a food plot several seasons back when it was utilized by other family members. Area is about 1/2 an acre. Been thinking about planting something just to have a something to draw some deer. Thing is, I don’t have any heavy equipment to utilize other than maybe borrowing a four wheeler from a buddy. Right now it’s got some weeds growing up in it, but a good portion of the ground is bare dirt. Rest of the property is hardwoods.
Given these circumstances, what would you do?
Given these circumstances, what would you do?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:24 pm to Rob Perillo
Cut it with lawnmower as low as you can.
Spray it with roundup with a backpack sprayer.
Plant a mixture of wheat oats and elbon rye at 50# for tbat half acre right before a rain in the last week of sept or all of Oct.
Spray it with roundup with a backpack sprayer.
Plant a mixture of wheat oats and elbon rye at 50# for tbat half acre right before a rain in the last week of sept or all of Oct.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:47 pm to Ol boy
Ole Boy has given you good advice.
Do you even have access to a riding mower? It would make it easier if it's grown up pretty high.
Do you even have access to a riding mower? It would make it easier if it's grown up pretty high.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:54 pm to Rob Perillo
Spray with backpack sprayer sometime in August or early Sept.
My preferred mix would be wheat, but also lots of clover. Because clover is a small seed and doesn't need to be covered. It will come up in the mulch of the dead grass.
Put it on thick. And use plenty of fertilizer. It's a small area so don't worry about cost per acre if that makes sense. I would put a minimum of 200# of triple 13 fertilizer on that hald acre. Don't spare the seed either
My preferred mix would be wheat, but also lots of clover. Because clover is a small seed and doesn't need to be covered. It will come up in the mulch of the dead grass.
Put it on thick. And use plenty of fertilizer. It's a small area so don't worry about cost per acre if that makes sense. I would put a minimum of 200# of triple 13 fertilizer on that hald acre. Don't spare the seed either
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:58 pm to Rob Perillo
I would add in a few bags of fertilizer if you have just dirt.
You either have to cut or spray, but both is nice.
But just throwing rye out can make anyone a farmer, it will grow in the back your truck.
You either have to cut or spray, but both is nice.
But just throwing rye out can make anyone a farmer, it will grow in the back your truck.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:02 pm to No Colors
I have a 2 small plots that I take care. I pretty much did with No Colors suggested. Fertilizer made my plots look amazing last fall. I do plan to just buy clover seed to mix in with some premixed plot seed.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:15 pm to Rob Perillo
Is the bare dirt hard pan?
If so, you’ll need to break that up somehow.
If so, you’ll need to break that up somehow.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:23 pm to bbvdd
It’s hard ground, that was part of my concern. I can mow it down and spray it for sure, but breaking up the ground would be a tougher task. Wanted to attempt last year but didn’t due to the drought.
Definitely appreciate the advice, I’m going to give it a shot.
Definitely appreciate the advice, I’m going to give it a shot.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:40 pm to Rob Perillo
For the hard pack areas, you can rent a walk-behind tiller with a plow attachment. They are self propelled, but still takes a lot of time going back and forth and zig zagging and criss crossing over and over to get it broken up. After your first pass you'll think "this is a waste of time and money, it ain't doing shite". Back and forth and back and forth an eventually you'll see results. The good news is you only have to do it once. It's not something you'd have to do every single year, especially once you start planting on it. The roots of whatever you plant will keep the soil loose in perpetuity. If it's heavy clay soil, stay off it when it is wet. That's what creates the hard pack. No atv's, no heavy equipment, and even foot traffic will create terracotta pottery on the surface when you walk around on it wet.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 4:17 pm to Rob Perillo
Do you have another club near by you can talk to? Maybe ask them to rent or you can pay them to come disc your packed areas? Maybe buy seed or fertilizer for them in exchange. I agree it does not need to be every year, and your small plot will not take someone with the correct equipment to knock it out.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 4:47 pm to Rob Perillo
I use a 4 wheeler and Bad Dog ground hog disc. It tears the ground up really good!
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:21 pm to Rob Perillo
I’ve posted these pics a few times on here. This was done with just a 4 wheeler. Picked up 2 used tires for free at a tire shop to drag after spraying. Basically did everything No Colors said. I do soil samples now, but these pictures, no soil sample was done. Buck busters is the mix.


Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:15 am to No Colors
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And use plenty of fertilizer.
Something like 8-8-8?
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:27 am to Rob Perillo
Look for a nearby United Rentals or any other equipment rental place near your location.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:52 am to Rob Perillo
No till planting! It’s the way to go.
If your plot grows anything - I.e. weeds - get started . Round up the plot within week - throw out seed ( after the dew dries) seed has ground contact then cultipack or crimp ( use any vehicle to pull fence , boards, metal , board ) . Roots die and aerate the soil & doesn’t kill ground organisms. Dead foliage covers seeds , retains moisture. Sun on disc ground dry rapidly.
Add fertilizer for a few years .
After a few years notill is equal to fertilization.
If your plot grows anything - I.e. weeds - get started . Round up the plot within week - throw out seed ( after the dew dries) seed has ground contact then cultipack or crimp ( use any vehicle to pull fence , boards, metal , board ) . Roots die and aerate the soil & doesn’t kill ground organisms. Dead foliage covers seeds , retains moisture. Sun on disc ground dry rapidly.
Add fertilizer for a few years .
After a few years notill is equal to fertilization.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:51 pm to LSUCajndoc1
Got it cut down and sprayed this morning! I’ll take the good advice provided here and hopefully update the thread down the road with a red arrow.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:49 pm to Ol boy
Only thing I'd add to Ol boy is if you had a heavy duty rake, scratch and break up the surface of the dirt before you sling seed.
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