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Should Signing up for Conscription be the benchmark to vote?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:34 am
I heard this the other day and the more I think about it the more it makes sense.
If you sign up for conscription, you should be allowed to vote. Otherwise, you dont get to vote.
Women now outnumber the amount of men who vote and legally do not have to sign up for conscription. Therefore, they can legally vote to start wars they will never fight. I believe that you need to have some sort of real skin in the game in order to vote. This also allows for equality among the sexes. Women who sign up for conscription are allowed to vote period. Even if they never see a uniform in their lifetime.
What is the Poli Boards opinion on this?
If you sign up for conscription, you should be allowed to vote. Otherwise, you dont get to vote.
Women now outnumber the amount of men who vote and legally do not have to sign up for conscription. Therefore, they can legally vote to start wars they will never fight. I believe that you need to have some sort of real skin in the game in order to vote. This also allows for equality among the sexes. Women who sign up for conscription are allowed to vote period. Even if they never see a uniform in their lifetime.
What is the Poli Boards opinion on this?
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:37 am to 50_Tiger
You should absolutely have some skin in the game to earn a vote, not just a heartbeat
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:37 am to 50_Tiger
The drafters of the 19th Amendment missed badly when they did not tie the franchise to eligibility for the draft.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:37 am to 50_Tiger
They are already trying to give illegals this avenue.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:38 am to 50_Tiger
Baby steps.
Can we focus on no benefits for non citizens, getting rid of the dept of education, and incentivizing the nuclear family as well as more conservatives to teach?
Pretty sure we wouldn't have to worry about half our problems with that.
Im more for not forcing things on people.
So dinr force me to pay for illegals, dont force schools to pass children who don't deserve it in order to keep funding, and dont force people who don't want to serve, to serve.
Can we focus on no benefits for non citizens, getting rid of the dept of education, and incentivizing the nuclear family as well as more conservatives to teach?
Pretty sure we wouldn't have to worry about half our problems with that.
Im more for not forcing things on people.
So dinr force me to pay for illegals, dont force schools to pass children who don't deserve it in order to keep funding, and dont force people who don't want to serve, to serve.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:40 am to 50_Tiger
I would gladly give my life to serve in the Exxon Mobil special forces.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:42 am to 50_Tiger
No. Military service should always be voluntary.
Voting rights are for adult legal citizens. Every voter must be validated prior to voting, and every vote must be validated prior to calling a race.
Voting rights are for adult legal citizens. Every voter must be validated prior to voting, and every vote must be validated prior to calling a race.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:42 am to 50_Tiger
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Women now outnumber the amount of men who vote and legally do not have to sign up for conscription.
Why do so few men vote?
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Therefore, they can legally vote to start wars they will never fight
Congress starts wars. It’s extremely to dishonest to claim that every female voter is pro-war.
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Women who sign up for conscription are allowed to vote period
So both parents of small children must volunteer to go to war in order to vote? And you don’t see any potential problems with both parents of young children going to war?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:47 am to Vacherie Saint
Simple answer and solution : you cannot vote if you are receiving government benefits
Can quibble on the time etc but basically you don't get to vote to keep getting freebies from others
Can quibble on the time etc but basically you don't get to vote to keep getting freebies from others
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:48 am to 4cubbies
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Why do so few men vote?
No idea. Maybe they feel disenfranchised?
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Congress starts wars. It’s extremely to dishonest to claim that every female voter is pro-war.
Who elects Congress? (men and women)
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So both parents of small children must volunteer to go to war in order to vote? And you don’t see any potential problems with both parents of young children going to war?
I would generally assume an amendment to the US Sole Survivor Policy would happen.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:49 am to Vacherie Saint
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No. Military service should always be voluntary.
Voting rights are for adult legal citizens. Every voter must be validated prior to voting, and every vote must be validated prior to calling a race.
I don't disagree with this in a vacuum where every vote is weighed equally.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:50 am to dafif
so my mom, who collects her ss and medicare benefits after a lifetime of paying taxes should NOT be allowed to vote?
did you mean welfare?
did you mean welfare?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:52 am to Vacherie Saint
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No. Military service should always be voluntary.
I mostly agree with this with the caveat that the draft should only be for an actual armed invasion by another country (of our country).
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:23 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:52 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Should Signing up for Conscription be the benchmark to vote?
Absolutely
I'd go further but this is the bare minimum
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:55 am to Vacherie Saint
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No. Military service should always be voluntary.
Voting rights are for adult legal citizens. Every voter must be validated prior to voting, and every vote must be validated prior to calling a race.
No one is talking about forcing people into the military
What we're saying is that if you want to vote, you need to register for the draft
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:56 am to BlueFalcon
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forcing people into the military
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register for the draft
who's gonna tell him?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:00 am to 50_Tiger
I heard the same idea on TimcastIRL and think it's a good idea. All citizens who enjoy the liberty and freedoms of America should be willing to defend those liberties and freedoms.
Also, might change some peoples perspective.
Now that a person might be required to fight for the American flag, that person wouldn't be so quick to burn it or sit by and watch others do so.
Also, might change some peoples perspective.
Now that a person might be required to fight for the American flag, that person wouldn't be so quick to burn it or sit by and watch others do so.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:00 am to Vacherie Saint
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who's gonna tell him?
Who is going to tell you?
I don't think my 20 years signed up for the draft has granted me any benefits that our actual service members have gained.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:04 am to Vacherie Saint
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No. Military service should always be voluntary.
Voting rights are for adult legal citizens. Every voter must be validated prior to voting, and every vote must be validated prior to calling a race
I disagree. Everyone should be subject to having defend the liberty and freedom of America. People having some skin in the game might change some attitudes about their personal "allegiance to the flag" if one day they might have to defend it.
Those idiots burning American flags don't understand the blood and sacrifice others paid so we could enjoy the liberty and freedoms of America.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:06 am to 50_Tiger
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If you sign up for conscription, you should be allowed to vote. Otherwise, you dont get to vote.
I'm okay with that or:
-Passing the civics test required to become a citizen but instead of 7/10 to pass you need to get 75 out of the 100 on the list, AND
-Proof of paying taxes 2 out of last 3 years.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:07 am
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