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The Location of the Shooter of the 1st shot can be inarguably found

Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:18 pm
I am talking concrete data that we have only.

John Cullen's theory about the bleacher shot is wrong. I've been knowing its wrong. His theory says the bullet traveled across the back row of bleachers from the water tower/woods by tower.

He is wrong about the chronological order of events of what the bullet passes first, then next and so on. The bullet essentially starts out from the right by the railing and the black curtain. I have the video slo mo'd and have gone frame by frame. Trust me on this.

My previous thoughts were it deflected off machinery and traveled through the black netting that cause of that puff of smoke (where red arrow is) and then i know for certain it passes railing guy first, then it hits the white shirt/black pants next then it hits a woman's purse, then it hits the other white shirt guy that sort of falls down. Green line is the rough exact bullet path.

I'm realizing now, it doesn't come from behind the railing from somewhere. That bullet (Trump's ear shot) literally hits a mark on that railing and deflects in a straight line.

From Trump's ear lobe on stage, to this railing spot that should have been marked by a deflected bullet should give the exact trajectory to the shooter who made the first shot. That is a straight line. No argument can be made.

Only 2 possibilities of the trajectory that scientifically is possible. The body's location on the roof which is coming from a slightly higher elevation or My theory that's been running for a couple days.... Give me window #3. Now window #3 if you look at the window from the grass, the room basically extends to the right. From inside the building room looking out, the window is on the right side of the wall, the shooter would have been tucked in left of window (looking outside) backed up a bit. The ruler essentially shows. But the trajectories are awfully close to dude on roof. Maybe by design. The angle and trajectory should be definitive. I know what location the audio analysis' would say from the get go. Sound of shot 1 was awfully muffled compared to the rapid fire in 2nd volley.

No conspiracies here, this is science talk of first shot.






Adding to simplify, I may have found bullet mark in railing from Trump’s first ear shot. Skip to page 4 for math and best guess.


This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46237 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:26 pm to
any references or links to explain any of this???

your text is pretty hard to follow.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:34 pm to
Sorry, I'm trying to explain details as best i can. I think things are worded correctly, just keep trying to understand what i'm saying.

All my information and point of bullet contacts are based off of knowing Trump's ear was hit on first shot and I've discovered that the 1st shot hit exactly the back railing and then deflected leftward into the crowd in the back of the bleachers. The video i'm posting below, he's become a star in trying to say the bullet came from water tower/ or angle would have put a monkey in a tree shooting to make that trajectory work. he's wrong, i have the bullet path figured out. Watch the bleacher video that John Cullen has been using.

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Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:38 pm to
So youre just completely discounting the gunshot detection locators?
quote:

A gunfire locator or gunshot detection system is a system that detects and conveys the location of gunfire or other weapon fire using acoustic, vibration, optical, or potentially other types of sensors, as well as a combination of such sensors.

Both state and SS snipers had this technology

Not one sniper team turned to any other direction than that rooftop, once firing began??

Its not that hard
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5243 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Not one sniper team turned to any other direction than that rooftop, once firing began??



That's interesting. I wish we has more detail.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
95805 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:47 pm to
The main problem I have with your theory of the first story window is that it's so close to the ground, and it seems like you based your passion for this theory entirely on a video of a cop appearing to "duck" under the window after the shootings, which I feel is very tenuous.

Do you have a video that "proves" the first shot went right to left instead of left to right? That doesn't make sense to me either.

Bret Weinstein is one of the highest IQ people in American public life and my rationale is that if he believes John Cullen solved the Las Vegas shooting and if BW thinks that John Cullen's theories here make sense, I have a hard time taking that PLUS my initial agreement with John Cullen's explanation and tossing it in the trash for your analysis. I've tried to understand your reasons and I respect your passion but it just doesn't make sense to me. That first shot was definitely going left to right IMO (from Crooks / Tree / Water tower towards hydraulic lift).

How did the hydraulic lift get hit and water started spraying if the shot was COMING from that side? Makes zero sense.

Or maybe you're NOT saying that the shot went right to left? That's what I'm not understanding. What are you saying about the first shot - can you try rewording it? Because however you're explaining it isn't connecting with me at all.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Green line is the rough exact bullet path.


Stopped reading right there.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
10920 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Stopped reading right there.


But.. but... but it's concrete data that ONLY he has.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

The two problems I have with your theory of the first story window is that it's so close to the ground.


Well it would need to be investigated. Fairgrounds is higher elevation and trump is on an elevated stage. I think the sight line is absolutely there. People can see Trump from that ground level. They were literally watching the event from ground.

quote:

Do you have a video that "proves" the first shot went right to left instead of left to right? That doesn't make sense to me either.


I can post still shots off of my slow mo of the video, but you would have to trust the chronological order. I literally use my iPhone slo mo feature to video the computer screen of his video. It’s also pretty clear which way that bullet is traveling that I posted the guy w white shirt.

quote:

How did the hydraulic lift get hit and water started spraying if the shot was COMING from that side? Makes zero sense.

The hydraulic shot is the same exact line that I’m telling you hit the rail. I think you could be slightly confused. My ruler is the line of the first shot. It goes exactly to machinery where hydraulic got shot.

quote:

Bret Weinstein is one of the highest IQ people in American public life and my rationale is that if he believes John Cullen solved the Las Vegas shooting and if BW thinks that John Cullen's theories here make sense, I have a hard time taking that PLUS my initial agreement with John Cullen's explanation and tossing it in the trash for your analysis. I've tried to understand your reasons and I respect your passion but it just doesn't make sense to me. That first shot was definitely going left to right IMO (from Crooks / Tree / Water tower towards hydraulic lift).



Look Weinstein was going along w presumed thought that the bullet came from that left/tower direction and then hit the railing at the end. That is wrong. Cullen’s theory then gets retarded w simultaneous shots, a shooter in woods, the sniper was ducking bc bullets were going at them etc. that’s all wrong. Trumps’ ear shot hits the top of the rails somewhere which put out that puff and deflected into bleachers. which then the green line I out is the bullet path of the deflected bullet.
Posted by Defiler
Member since Jul 2024
422 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:10 pm to
Neither State nor SS can be trusted ... It's not that hard.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172396 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Stopped reading right there.


Don’t really give a frick. Green line is the bullet path after it deflected from rail. It hits 3-4 in a straight line in bleachers. That is not the path from shooter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120539 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:13 pm to
I love your confidence.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172396 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Or maybe you're NOT saying that the shot went right to left? That's what I'm not understanding.


The right to left line is after it hit the railing. The original shot smoked the top of railing and then traveled right to left on the deflected path. Cullen argues wrong it came from left traveled right.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95805 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

The hydraulic shot is the same exact line that I’m telling you hit the rail. I think you could be slightly confused. My ruler is the line of the first shot. It goes exactly to machinery where hydraulic got shot.



Gotcha. I'm open to that and it makes sense that it was a deflection, because those baws would have likely been killed if it was the actual shot and not a deflection, right?

I can dig that theory.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

I love your confidence.


I’m 1000%.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172396 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:18 pm to
When you realize the puff a smoke is the original ear shot smoking railing and then see it travel from there… it’s light bulb. Cullen had arse backwards maybe even on purpose who knows. He’s certainly has driven the tower theory into the ground and has upped his conspiracy fame.
Posted by Defiler
Member since Jul 2024
422 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:18 pm to
Grassy Knoll all over again. What about the water tower shooter? What 3 letter agency is responsible?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
10920 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:18 pm to
quote:


I’m 1000%.

Have you called up the Trump camp, the Secret Service, the FBI or the local LEO's and told them you've cracked the case? Maybe NCIS? Surely you've called someone.. this is much, much, much too important for you to sit on, don't you think?
Posted by Julz5198
Member since Mar 2023
564 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:25 pm to
You know there is an eyewitness account of a lady at ground level that saw someone take out the shooter on top of the water tower
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7520 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:30 pm to
So, what did you think of this?

Like the "Fed" from the window from behind and above the patsy Crook. This is the guy that most likely took the first 3 shots at Trump.

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