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Recommendations on a .338 win mag and scope

Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by NeilArmstrong1969
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:48 am
Can anyone recommend a .338 win mag and a scope and the best place to purchase them? I’m going elk hunting in November in Colorado and am looking to purchase both. I’d ideally like to be able to use the rifle for moose if I ever chose to do so. I have limited knowledge of firearms and ammunition, went to Jim’s firearms last week, and they didn’t have any .338’s
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3999 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:00 am to
You should probably get a 300wm just because of ammo availability if nothing else. The 300wm is plenty enough for both and I know several buddys that use 308/7mm08/6.5cr and have had very good success with them.
If I was buying one right now for elk and moose trip it would be a tikka 300wm with either a nightforce or trijicon scope.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16344 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:01 am to
Hard to find. Most are Savage or Winchester. Here's a nice Ruger

LINK
Posted by NeilArmstrong1969
Member since Jul 2024
147 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:18 am to
I was looking at possibly getting a Winchester Model 70 super grade .338, would you recommend a nightforce or trijicon scope for that rifle?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:31 am to
I would look at a lightweight 300 WM in Bergara or Tikka. I'm partial to Leupold and Zeiss personally. But weight of your rig should be a priority, so maybe you can get good glass in a lighter package from someone else.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:38 am to
I don't ever want to talk a feller out of getting a big magnum rifle, but

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You should probably get a 300wm just because of ammo availability


and a 300 Win Mag is more than sufficient for elk and moose
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:39 am to
I'm a huge 300 win mag fan, if you want bigger may consider a 300 PRC which has a little more HP than a win mag but may actually be more accurate in the right hands and set up properly.

anything from a 300 win mag and up will kill anything in North American and really likely anything you want to shoot around the globe.

Optics are a whole different animal, what are your goals distance wise and what is your budget?
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9905 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:48 am to
IMO, you're WAY overthinking the firepower and glass needed. Personally, I'd suggest a stainless, composite stock 30-06 with a 3x9 or 4x12 scope. The '06 will kill elk/moose all day long and has done so for over 100 years. 30-06 ammo is sold everywhere including small sporting goods stores in rural BFE.

this Browning A-Bolt composite stalker is listed on GunBroker for $599 This rifle is likely from the early 90's and was a tack-driver. I owned 3 and they all shot extremely well (.243, 30-06, 7mag).



Here's one for $499 give the cheap Tasco Pronghorn scope to a kid and upgrade to reliable Zeiss 3x9
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:58 am to
I have a Maple super grade in .308. It's a fantastic rifle but I am hesitant to take it hunting because of how pretty it is. Just something to consider.
Posted by NeilArmstrong1969
Member since Jul 2024
147 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Optics are a whole different animal, what are your goals distance wise and what is your budget?


My budget is $2600 for the rifle and scope combined
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16344 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:06 am to
Looks like GunBroker has the most options including Sako. I would at least give it a look.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9905 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 11:22 am to
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GunBroker has the most options including Sako.


Sako 75 Stainless fluted 30-06 with Zeiss scope & Harris bipod current bid of $510. Hard to beat a stainless Sako 75 with the detach. box magazine. This will likely sell for < $1400 which is an excellent turn-key setup
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
So you are likely figuring roughly..$1000 for the rifle $1400 for the scope and $200 for a couple boxes of bullets maybe? (Don't forget to add cost of Ammo it's expensive on magnum rifles maybe not $200 but can easily spend more than that depending on what you shoot).

So if we figure $1400 for a scope you have a lot of reasonable options. Vortex and Leupold have good options there you may luck into a used Nightforce or Swarovski as well. My personal scopes are mostly 5-25x56 I can ring steel past 1,000 and kill a white tail inside 75 yards with those scopes. I would think you could find something reasonable with that budget but not certain as I haven't bought a scope in that price point in a while.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I have limited knowledge of firearms and ammunition


Just some friendly advice, not being judgmental here.

Have you fire large calibers before? If not you need to start practicing soon. A 300 win mag (and larger) has some punch and you don't want to get to the moment of truth and not be confident. The caliber is less important than shot placement and you need to trust your setup and your ability. Good luck. Im sure its going to be a great hunt.
Posted by NeilArmstrong1969
Member since Jul 2024
147 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Have you fire large calibers before? If not you need to start practicing soon. A 300 win mag (and larger) has some punch and you don't want to get to the moment of truth and not be confident


I haven’t fired large calibers before, that’s why I was planning on getting a setup asap so I can practice at the range with it before the hunt in November. I think you guys have talked me into a .300 win mag and I also think I might be more accurate with the smaller caliber. Right now I’m looking at the .300 Win Mag Model 70 Super Grade, it’s a beautiful gun
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:39 pm to
.300 is a good choice. I have a .338 win mag which I really like, but in hindsight I wish i had got a .300. Far better ammo availability, better long range performance, less recoil, still plenty horsepower for anything in North America. The .338 is cooler but ammo availability is a real problem these days and the recoil is a lot to deal with. It's stout. Once I get older I'll have to shoot something else.

I'd recommend getting the extreme weather ss version model 70. It has an excellent stock and even at the price, it's still a bargain for what you get. The supergrade is nice, but the the EWSS is a more practical rifle. Much better stock, lighter weight, stainless, and already threaded incase you want a brake or supressor in the future. The stock is the big selling point though, it's excellent. It makes the .338 more pleasant to shoot than a .270 with a bad stock. The recoil is what it is, it's still going to buck and spotting hits just flat out isn't going to happen with a light .338 until you're at 600+ yards, but it's a fantastic stock for an off the shelf sporting rifle.

Scope wise, SWFA 3-9 or 3-15. Bombproof reliability, good price, good enough glass. Zero retention is a non-issue with those with decent mounts.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3999 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

I’m looking at the .300 Win Mag Model 70 Super Grade, it’s a beautiful gun

I love wood guns and have several that I rotate in and out of my hunts. I wouldn’t want to have to deal with wood/blued gun and the moisture and lack of care that needs to be done on one on a back country hunt.
Also it will have been beautiful but a few days transporting it you will want to trade all that beauty for the one pound of weight savings you can get from a synthetic stock. And the last thing you will want to do in the evening after it’s been spitting snow and sleet is wipe a gun down with oil!!
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:03 pm to
Skip the elk and/or moose. With a 338 mag you can cut the line and go straight to Brown/Kodiak/Polar bear.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3999 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

was looking at possibly getting a Winchester Model 70 super grade .338, would you recommend a nightforce or trijicon scope for that rifle?

If im going up a mountain and putting it all on the line I’m not skimping on my scope and its ability to retain zero and track accurately.
Go check out some YouTubes of the torture test that nightforce does on their scopes. There is a weight penalty due to the robust construction but it can be offset somewhat with a carbon fiber stock.
I’m heading to Colorado this fall with a Christensen arms mesa in 300wm with a nightforce shv-5-20-56.
It’s a lil on the heavy side 9.5 pounds all in but I’m focusing on dropping two pounds off my gut to make up for it.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10097 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 4:43 pm to
Do you have any idea how many elk have been killed by a .270?

Its about shot placement. Your regular deer rifle that you can actually shoot is plenty.

The .338 will kick the fvck out of you though, if you are into to that kind of thing.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 4:46 pm
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