Title IX is why our Women's Team is Good and Our Men's Team is Mid

I don't think it's IX directly. Schools could have men's soccer and drop a different men's sport, or add men's soccer and an offsetting sport to stay in compliance.

Good male athletes want to play baseball, football, and basketball. Soccer is for teenage girls. (That might be an indirect result of Title IX.)

The frociaggine uniforms don't help either. Huge turnoff for boys who might otherwise pursue soccer.

Title IX is why our womens team HAS been good. It will hold it back in the future since the euro nations now have better youth female set ups.

It hasn’t really affected the mens much either way.

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huh?

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Pride uniforms.

Fuels the image of "soccer is gay".

That’s why you’re seeing the club sports, especially soccer, at universities blow up right now. My daughter turned down a dozen or so scholarships from D1-D3 because the money they offered was a fraction of what she got academically. It would be stupid to go that deep in the hole just to play soccer. Plus every coach at the higher D1 level told us because of the portal, they will take a player with a year under their belt from a lower school (D1-CC) over an incoming Freshman (the lower D1 - D3 were on board), so she’s playing for an SEC schools Club Team. They play Bama, LSU, etc., it’s NIRSA they’ll have a National Tournament in Tucson next year, and they’re Divisions just like in scholarshipped athletics. One girl transferred in from Kentucky because of the program. They get to play, more money from academics, and aren’t worked like cattle, much better life balance. We also know a few men’s players who are going this route, one was a former U20 national player. The university coaches will tell you , it’s about them and winning, you’re not being “developed”… so the notion that men’s university programs would be beneficial to our national team, just doesn’t compute in my opinion.
As long as tournament money is rolling in US soccer doesn’t see the need for change, and you can say it’s not pay to play… but it’s pay to play, the super athletes just aren’t interested in soccer and that’s fine by US soccer.

I think title ix probably helped push the women to the top, but not as important now. I don’t think it made a difference to the men’s game.
For the women it allowed us to build a program back when other countries didn’t value women’s s sports. Now that success has pushed more girls into choosing soccer. I don’t think it is the ideal of a college scholarship, but rather they want to be the next superstar American player.

On the men’s side if we are relying on college soccer to build, then we will be worse off. Maybe we need to do a better job of telling kids that will top out at 5’11 160 that they will not be the next lebron James or Patrick mahomes.

It’s not rocket science.

In the US the elite athletes spend their development years playing football baseball and basketball.

It’s not like tennis where you can have one or two elite players pick your sport at a young age and carry your country.

You need 20-30 elite ones that don’t pick the big three sports and then all come together at a young age and then you need to repeat that every 5 years.

In Europe models and pop stars date soccer stars.

In the US they date football basketball and baseball players.


It’s not gonna change anytime soon.

Personally... I don't want any players on the USMNT who will go play for a US University. We should be better than that.

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It’s not rocket science. In the US the elite athletes spend their development years playing football baseball and basketball. It’s not like tennis where you can have one or two elite players pick your sport at a young age and carry your country. You need 20-30 elite ones that don’t pick the big three sports and then all come together at a young age and then you need to repeat that every 5 years. In Europe models and pop stars date soccer stars. In the US they date football basketball and baseball players.

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Not this stupid argument again

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How is it stupid? Like this applies 0%?

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Do you know how many players on the Copa America roster played college soccer?

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line every other fricking sport in the US.

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Except soccer isn't like every other fricking sport in the US because it's the only big sport where we don't set the standard.

As the MLS and USL academies continue to extend their footprint, college soccer will shrink even more in importance in terms of building out our talent base.

For example, our last U-20 World Cup team, I don't believe a single player on that squad stepped foot on a college campus.