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Hawaii house built on wrong lot ordered to be torn down by judge
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:32 am
Just saw an update to this on a law channel I follow. From this story a few months ago. Judge says they have to tear the house down and restore it to its former status-- undoing the grading, replace the plants and trees they tore out. They admitted in court they surveyed by counting telephone poles.
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Short version if you didn't know: Woman bought lot in Hawaii while living in Southern California that sat for a few years. In those few years a company built a house on it, squatters moved in, they tried to sell it, realized they were on the wrong lot. They tried to get her to swap lots, she said no. They sued her and lost in stunning fashion.
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Short version if you didn't know: Woman bought lot in Hawaii while living in Southern California that sat for a few years. In those few years a company built a house on it, squatters moved in, they tried to sell it, realized they were on the wrong lot. They tried to get her to swap lots, she said no. They sued her and lost in stunning fashion.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:34 am to Thundercles
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:34 am to Thundercles
Blows my mind that this could happen at all. How negligent is that builder to do this? And to nearly complete a house before realizing it?
And some of the OT gets pissed when someone walks across their shitty land to get to a deer stand. Imagine someone building a fricking house on it....permits and everything.
And some of the OT gets pissed when someone walks across their shitty land to get to a deer stand. Imagine someone building a fricking house on it....permits and everything.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:40 am to Thundercles
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Short version if you didn't know: Woman bought lot in Hawaii while living in Southern California that sat for a few years. In those few years a company built a house on it, squatters moved in, they tried to sell it, realized they were on the wrong lot. They tried to get her to swap lots, she said no. They sued her and lost in stunning fashion.
Are they squatters or did the own a lot and make a big mistake by building on the wrong lot?
How the hell building on the wrong lot happen all the way through moving in to the house and living there is beyond me.
My guess is they knew it was the wrong lot but figured what the heck, no ones ever here to check, maybe we can builds and sell it and profit while still keeping out original lot. win win for us..
Props to the Hawaii legal system for not screwing that woman in California out of her property. And she should be glad the lot was in Hawaii and not California. She would have lost it for sure with likely no compensation.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:41 am to member12
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How negligent is that builder to do this? And to nearly complete a house before realizing it?
They completely finished it and it was on the market before they realized they fricked up. They just wanted to cut corners and save a few bucks on surveyors. Insane given how many houses they built and they couldn't shell out a few hundred bucks for a proper survey.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:42 am to Snipe
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Are they squatters or did the own a lot and make a big mistake by building on the wrong lot?
When I say squatters I mean actual squatters. Vagrants who saw an open house and just slept in it without any payment and of course trashed it. It was still for sale.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:44 am to Thundercles
Hopefully the squatters were in it when it got dozed.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:45 am to Thundercles
Honestly thought it would be a really nice house on a beautiful lot...
Clicked the link and it's a crappy little house on a equally crappy lot...
The builder should've offered her a new, crappy lot+ $50K. She tried negotiating with them...
Now, they're gonna be out the cost of the lot, cost of the house, plus remediation and demolition costs. Plus, lawyer fees. $400-500K
FAFO.
Clicked the link and it's a crappy little house on a equally crappy lot...
The builder should've offered her a new, crappy lot+ $50K. She tried negotiating with them...
Now, they're gonna be out the cost of the lot, cost of the house, plus remediation and demolition costs. Plus, lawyer fees. $400-500K
FAFO.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:47 am to Thundercles
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When I say squatters I mean actual squatters. Vagrants who saw an open house and just slept in it without any payment and of course trashed it. It was still for sale.
Damn. The plot thickens...
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:49 am to Thundercles
what I don't understand is the woman who owns the property, why wouldn't she
1) keep the free house or
2) take 250K and the empty lot next to your lot
ETA- Just read that she couldn't settle because she doesn't have title to the land. She bought it on the cheap at a tax auction, the previous owner still has the title to the land.
1) keep the free house or
2) take 250K and the empty lot next to your lot
ETA- Just read that she couldn't settle because she doesn't have title to the land. She bought it on the cheap at a tax auction, the previous owner still has the title to the land.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:51 am to Thundercles
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It was still for sale.
The way the property owner found out for sure and not just rumors was when a realtor telephoned to inform her that she “needed to get this fixed” because the house had been sold.
Apparently the title insurance policy after closing was when the suing parties realized their mistake.
ETA:
I got the distinct impression part of the reason why the property owner didn’t accept counter offers was because the way the people in the wrong acted. They were jerks and assholes from inception all the way to suing HER over her own property.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:58 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:51 am to TigerintheNO
They offered her $250k?
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:52 am to Sidicous
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title insurance policy
You never need it until you really need it.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:53 am to Thundercles
If that was me in that situation, I’d be like, hey, thanks for the new house….appreciate it.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:54 am to TigerintheNO
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what I don't understand is the woman who owns the property, why wouldn't she
1) keep the free house or
2) take 250K and the empty lot next to your lot
She made some claims about how that lot was special and aligned to some astrological coordinates and she was planning on building a retreat there for that reason. I think those claims are dubious, but it's her right to have them.
It's in the middle of a massive new subdivision with identical ugly houses it seems.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:54 am to Thundercles
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They completely finished it and it was on the market before they realized they fricked up. They just wanted to cut corners and save a few bucks on surveyors. Insane given how many houses they built and they couldn't shell out a few hundred bucks for a proper survey.
Wish I was in the room when they figured out that they can't sell the home because it's on land they do not own.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:54 am to N2cars
and the lot they were suppose to build on
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:55 am to member12
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Blows my mind that this could happen at all. How negligent is that builder to do this? And to nearly complete a house before realizing it?
Lots of failures in this, builder, govt inspectors, etc.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:56 am to TigerintheNO
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what I don't understand is the woman who owns the property, why wouldn't she
Because women don’t think that way. I’m sure she took it personal, and wants someone to suffer.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:56 am to member12
how do you get a building permit without a plat map or survey with legal description?
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