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If you have never read One Second After, you should
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:06 pm
Holy shite what a disturbing and harrowing look at a very real potential future.
I could definitely see it playing out like it does in the book (aftermath of high altitude nuke detonation over continental USA - EMP)
I could definitely see it playing out like it does in the book (aftermath of high altitude nuke detonation over continental USA - EMP)
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:09 pm to udtiger
Nuclear schnuclear
- the OT warmongers
- the OT warmongers
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:12 pm to udtiger
I loved the book and generally like the post-apocalyptic genre, but they aren’t based in any sort of reality.
They are great fiction, but not analogous to potential futures.
They are great fiction, but not analogous to potential futures.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:12 pm to udtiger
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:19 pm to udtiger
Not sure why they never made this into a movie. I know there were talks of a trilogy.
With the garbage they have been churning out, this would be a slam dunk.
With the garbage they have been churning out, this would be a slam dunk.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:25 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I loved the book and generally like the post-apocalyptic genre, but they aren’t based in any sort of reality. They are great fiction, but not analogous to potential futures.
Why?
Not calling you a liar I just don’t know.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:31 pm to choupiquesushi
EMPs as described in that book are hypothetical.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I loved the book and generally like the post-apocalyptic genre, but they aren’t based in any sort of reality. They are great fiction, but not analogous to potential futures.
The impact of an EMP may not have been accurately described in One Second After, but I know a couple of very bright engineers who are in that world and according to them our grid has very vulnerable pressure points. It would not be repaired quickly if people with a little knowledge decided to snackbar the US.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:39 pm to Flats
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g to them our grid has very vulnerable pressure points. It would not be repaired quickly if people with a little knowledge decided to snackbar the US.
This IMO is a far greater threat than a hypothetical EMP. Organized attacks on the grid in 6 or 7 key locations would be catastrophic to the country.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:44 pm to udtiger
If you liked that then you’d probably like Patriots The premise is a collapse of society after major economic crash.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:46 pm to wareaglepete
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This IMO is a far greater threat than a hypothetical EMP. Organized attacks on the grid in 6 or 7 key locations would be catastrophic to the country
Good thing we are letting a bunch of terrorists and enemy combatants walk right across the border.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:49 pm to wareaglepete
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This IMO is a far greater threat than a hypothetical EMP. Organized attacks on the grid in 6 or 7 key locations would be catastrophic to the country.
Cars still work though for short term in a grid attack, much worse with EMP. could you imagine your wife going shopping 20 miles away and her car stop working, phones stop working, everyone being on alert where you’d be cautious of everyone?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:50 pm to WestBay
I know, right. Defies logic. Only two plausible explanations: stupidity or design
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:52 pm to momentoftruth87
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Cars still work though for short term in a grid attack, much worse with EMP. could you imagine your wife going shopping 20 miles away and her car stop working, phones stop working, everyone being on alert where you’d be cautious of everyone?
True but this is just theory. Never been tested and proven. How could it have been?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:01 pm to wareaglepete
With that logic sub stations would probably be okay too. Most things are ran by computers though and would definitely matter where the blast occurs. If they emp us I think it would be over regardless because we’d be launching retaliatory ICBMs.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:04 pm to LuckyTiger
The efficacy of EMPs are very limited and the range is not great.
Their utter destruction of all electronics is greatly exaggerated to the point of pure fiction.
Sure, the grid can be damaged. But what about the millions of generators that exist, as well as local power plants that can quickly be rerouted to power the local populace? The grid as a whole could be taken offline, but locales could still have power.
Again, I love the genre but it’s just mostly bullshite. The United States is too big and it would take all out nuclear war to achieve that sort of result.
Their utter destruction of all electronics is greatly exaggerated to the point of pure fiction.
Sure, the grid can be damaged. But what about the millions of generators that exist, as well as local power plants that can quickly be rerouted to power the local populace? The grid as a whole could be taken offline, but locales could still have power.
Again, I love the genre but it’s just mostly bullshite. The United States is too big and it would take all out nuclear war to achieve that sort of result.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:05 pm to momentoftruth87
I’ve though a bout a similar situation - what would you do if you were on a work trip away from your family, no car - you flew, (say 8-10 hr drive away) and one of these emp/grid attacks occur. How would you get home? What would yo do?
I think I’d try to steal a bike and figure out how to load up supplies/water and start pedaling.
I think I’d try to steal a bike and figure out how to load up supplies/water and start pedaling.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:08 pm to LazloHollyfeld
The idea that an EMP just takes all electronics and cars offline instantly has never been real. It’s science fiction.
Sure, maybe the electronics in a small area very near the site, but over hundreds of miles? No.
Sure, maybe the electronics in a small area very near the site, but over hundreds of miles? No.
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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The idea that an EMP just takes all electronics and cars offline instantly has never been real. It’s science fiction.
not only is it fiction, but most books on the subject completely ignore US countermeasures, or our own ability to deploy those kind of attacks. nothing is 0%, but it’s as close to 0% as anything in geopolitics
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