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Ukraine say U.S. tanks are ineffective and armor is useless

Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:00 am to
Ukraine has been doing a "don't bite the hand that feeds you" lately
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4705 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:01 am to
Don't care. We must send them more aid.
Posted by Herschal
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2011
2113 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:02 am to
Good.

Then you wont be needing any more arms or armor.

Very good.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19175 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:03 am to
what's the oilfield saying...

"you have to be smarter than your tools"

Ukraine = Fail

(in all fairness they don't have the skills or resources to do combined arms operations, but still...)
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59390 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:05 am to
Let them use Ukrainian tanks.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:05 am to
I’ve said it over and over again.

The U.S. military are making the same mistakes the Nazi made in WW2. Focusing more on creating the new most advance that cost way more to produce, harder to maintain, more complicated to use, and not as durable.


While the Soviet and U.S. at the time cracked out euipment like no tomorrow by being simple but effective.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72143 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:06 am to
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Ukraine say U.S. tanks are ineffective and armor is useless


They worked fine for me back in my day. Sounds like user error to me.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:06 am to
quote:

(in all fairness they don't have the skills or resources to do combined arms operations, but still...)


In a real war with drones, satellites, and ballistic missiles no one does. Much harder to have logistics and bases when you aren’t fighting illiterate goat herders in sandals.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:07 am to
paging Darth…
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72143 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:08 am to
quote:

paging Darth…


Look two posts up from yours.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:08 am to
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fighting illiterate goat herders in sandals.


they kicked the Rooskies’ arse didn’t they?
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:10 am to
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they kicked the Rooskies’ arse didn’t they?


Yea because you can’t nation build a nation that doesn’t want to be built. You bomb destroy everything and then leave.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:12 am to
Ukraine isn't getting the same tank you find in US units. Lot of differences.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50871 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:12 am to
They should build their own tanks then.

EDIT: Using their own money.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15307 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:12 am to
You’re welcome, you ungrateful buttplugs
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72143 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

in all fairness they don't have the skills or resources to do combined arms operations, but still...


^ this is the correct answer.

Infantry by itself is vulnerable.
Armor by itself is vulnerable.
Cavalry by itself is vulnerable.
Artillery by itself is vulnerable.

But when you have infantry, armor, cavalry, and artillery working together in a cohesive team, you’re going to find success.

Neither the Russians nor Ukrainians have been able to figure out how to pull it off though.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Ukraine isn't getting the same tank you find in US units. Lot of differences.


You’re right they’re even more complicated and require even more logistics while also being much heavier which is what Ukraine is complaining about. You think making the tanks more complicated fixes the issue of it being overly engineered?
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34244 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:13 am to
Why would they need tanks when they have Model Sniper, Drone Boy and Ghost of Kyiv?
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92923 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:14 am to
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RaoulDuke504


Why do you hate America so much?

Seems like every thread you start shits on the USA.

What's your deal?
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