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PT poll: Should convicted violent felons get their gun rights back after release?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:46 pm
We have several posters here that believe that convicted violent felons should have their 2nd Amendment rights restored after serving their sentences.
I do not. I’m fine with most non-violent felons getting their rights back after release, but not for violent criminals and especially those convicted of gun crimes. They forfeited their rights when they illegally shot someone.
What say you?
Upvote for not giving them gun rights.
Downvote for giving them them their rights back.
I do not. I’m fine with most non-violent felons getting their rights back after release, but not for violent criminals and especially those convicted of gun crimes. They forfeited their rights when they illegally shot someone.
What say you?
Upvote for not giving them gun rights.
Downvote for giving them them their rights back.
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:51 pm to bhtigerfan
only after all penalties and costs of retribution to their victims have been paid.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:53 pm to bhtigerfan
Sounds like they are working up to give them a voting right after release. (Just so democratic politicians are able to be re-elected).
These are the same demoncrats that want to abolish the 2nd amendment, correct?
These are the same demoncrats that want to abolish the 2nd amendment, correct?
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:54 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:55 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
but not for violent criminals and especially those convicted of gun crimes. They forfeited their rights when they illegally shot someone.
First, gun crimes doesn’t always equal violent crimes.
Second, rights are inalienable, and once someone has served their time and punishment, ALL rights should be restored. What other rights are you okay with taking away once someone’s sentence is done?
Lastly, “I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery”-Rousseau. The freedom of our society trumps your right to take away others rights to make you feel secure.
Bet you consider yourself a small govt conservative huh?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:56 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:If you say "off paper" rather than "release", I'm with you as long as they had no hiccups during their time served and probation. But the approval should go back to the judge who sentenced them with the petition to regain ownership.
I’m fine with most non-violent felons getting their rights back after release,
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:56 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Bet you consider yourself a small govt conservative huh?
In the other 2A thread he claims to be a very strong supporter of gun rights.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:57 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
But the approval should go back to the judge who sentenced them with the petition to regain ownership.
Dem judge=no chance
There is a reason they are inalienable rights. So a guy having a bad day can't take them away from you.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:57 pm to bhtigerfan
Most people in the category don't care about what they are allowed to have/not have. They are going to arm themselves anyway
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:59 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
But the approval should go back to the judge who sentenced them with the petition to regain ownership.
Not this.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:00 pm to bhtigerfan
Depends on what type of felony we are talking about. A previous conviction for murder or rape is much different than a conviction for embezzlement or bank fraud.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:01 pm to bhtigerfan
Violent felons? No way.
There is probably some categories of non violent felons where they could get the right to own guns back.
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There is probably some categories of non violent felons where they could get the right to own guns back.
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:02 pm to chili pup
Legality isnt stopping a criminal.
Self defense is one of our most basic rights.
Self defense is one of our most basic rights.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:03 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:They should have known the risks on that bad day they did the crime. This should be a state issue.
There is a reason they are inalienable rights.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:03 pm to bhtigerfan
You either believe the debt is paid or you don't.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:05 pm to bhtigerfan
If they are released from prison and parole, they must have the rights of any citizen.
Otherwise, it is cruel and unusual punishment.
Otherwise, it is cruel and unusual punishment.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:05 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
This should be a state issue.
States should be able to take away your constitutional rights?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:06 pm to bhtigerfan
Felons: yes
Violent felons: no, at least not for 10 years with no other incidents.
Violent felons: no, at least not for 10 years with no other incidents.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:08 pm to bhtigerfan
No to all felons. Just don’t do it.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:11 pm to Beessnax
quote:Yeah I know this, but should we make it legal and easier for them to arm themselves?
Most people in the category don't care about what they are allowed to have/not have. They are going to arm themselves anyway
There’s obviously some violent felons who do not want to go back to prison for carrying a firearm, and that’s a good thing. I applaud them. But there are many that aren’t afraid of going back to prison and illegally own and carry firearms. I mean damn, how many stories do we have to read about violent felons committing gun violence after being released from prison?
Can you imagine someone you love being killed by a released violent felon legally carrying a gun?
Why are you arguing to make it easier for them to kill and maim others. It’s fricking insanity. They cannot be trusted!
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 7:22 pm
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