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re: Those Ole Miss Baws Are About To Get Introduced To The New Woke America
Posted on 5/6/24 at 12:47 pm to Big Jim Slade
Posted on 5/6/24 at 12:47 pm to Big Jim Slade
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making monkey noises
Is this really what he was doing or the left making something of nothing?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:02 pm to LuckyTiger
I dont know who was doing what. I just know that one kid doing monkey shite on camera fricked it for everbody.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:05 pm to RedHog260
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So making monkey sounds if fat shaming? Please elaborate on your position that fat people are monkey- like.
She is obese. I have no issues calling her obese or Lizzo or anything else to her fat face. She isn't a monkey so I wouldn't be making monkey noises or gestures or whatever this moron was doing. This isn't hard to understand. This shouldn't be too controversial to anyone who has an IQ above 80.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:09 pm to VoxDawg
Racist dog whistles exist so whites can communicate how they feel about Black and marginalized people without being overly racist or bigoted.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:16 pm to LuckyTiger
Not being able to do gratuitous monkey impressions at a black person is woke?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Freedom of speech is never freedom from consequences. Applies to everyone. Not sure why republicans cry like bitches about this.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:34 pm to Gham
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Freedom of speech is never freedom from consequences.
god i'm so tired of hearing this trite bullshite from people like you that think you are really saying something here.
yes, you are right. if i walk up to a huge guy and start running my mouth and he knocks me the frick out, I cant turn around and say my first amendment rights were violated.
but say I’m a student at a government funded institution and I say or do something that goes against the cultural and politically accepted norms, and then that state funded school starts threatening me with expulsion and coming out making statements against me, etc. and then a thousand journalists that contribute to a thousand publications that any number of which are deeply in bed with the government all start swarming and attacking me. and then I get kicked out of school and try to go get a job with some company who looks me up and sees my story, and they know that they are at the mercy of those same institutions that are all deeply intertwined the government and major power brokers, so they don’t hire me --- do I really have freedom of speech?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:50 pm to Northshore Aggie
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but say I’m a student at a government funded institution and I say or do something that goes against the cultural and politically accepted norms, and then that state funded school starts threatening me with expulsion and coming out making statements against me, etc.
This is government attempting to limit your speech. You may have a case here regarding your fundamental rights being violated by the government-funded institution.
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... and then a thousand journalists that contribute to a thousand publications ... all start swarming and attacking me. and then I ... try to go get a job with some company who looks me up and sees my story, and they ... don’t hire me --- do I really have freedom of speech?
These sound like consequences from your speech flowing from private organizations (other than being kicked out of school).
Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences.
If you want to walk in the middle of the quad and say that all fat girls that look like Lizzo are shite-eating monkeys and deserve to have monkey noises directed at them, then you have that right, and no government entity should abridge that right to speak freely.
It doesn't mean that a private citizen can't film you and then distribute that widely on social media, and then every private employer choose not to hire you because your values don't align with that of the company.
The constitutional protection of freedom of speech is meant to limit government overreach on your right to speak freely. It has nothing to do with consequences from private entities that react to your speech.
A great example of this is Ryna Workman, a third year law student at NYU Law School who lost her offer to a New York law firm not long after Israel was attacked on October 7, 2023. Her speech was not infringed by the State of New York, but the firm that offered her an associate position promptly revoked the offer after her comments about the attack.
Again, consequences flowing from private action in response to her speech.
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This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:53 pm to LuckyTiger
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The university's Black Student Union released a statement in solidarity with the pro-Palestinian group, whom they described as "nonviolent demonstrators who were advocating for Palestine,"
How do the terms "pro Palestinian group " and "nonviolent demonstrators" balance with each other?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:02 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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The constitutional protection of freedom of speech is meant to limit government overreach on your right to speak freely. It has nothing to do with consequences from private entities that react to your speech.
i know what constitutionally protected freedom of speech is. my point is that when all of those private institutions are inextricably intertwined with government personnel, funds, and influence, what’s the difference?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:06 pm to Northshore Aggie
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...all of those private institutions are inextricably intertwined with government personnel, funds, and influence...
The difference is that Ole Miss is an actual land grant institution established under state law, with benefits flowing to it from the State of Mississippi and the federal government.
Joe Blow newspaper doesn't have state tax revenue dollars and federal revenue dollars flowing to it (other than, possibly, loans from the Department of Commerce that have to be repaid).
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:07 pm to Penrod
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Ole Miss should expel him
expel whom for what...
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:08 pm to LuckyTiger
This up in arms over a guy imitating a monkey? And you've got a bitch arse chancellor investigating it when the other side is chanting death to America & all jews should die.
I dgaf someone clowned on one of those anti American protesters. Stop apologizing for it.
If OM donors don't stand up against this hypocrisy, they will give that bunch of clowns more power. And it will get worse.
Monkey boy is about to never have to work another day in his life.
I dgaf someone clowned on one of those anti American protesters. Stop apologizing for it.
If OM donors don't stand up against this hypocrisy, they will give that bunch of clowns more power. And it will get worse.
Monkey boy is about to never have to work another day in his life.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:16 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Joe Blow newspaper doesn't have state tax revenue dollars and federal revenue dollars flowing to it (other than, possibly, loans from the Department of Commerce that have to be repaid).
look dude, i get the fricking difference. i am speaking conceptually about the federal government using influence with media and journalists being a loophole to target political enemies, and how that is functionally the same as the government targeting their enemies directly. i realize reading comprehension is challenging for some people, but JFC try to grasp what I'm getting at.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:20 pm to Northshore Aggie
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i am speaking conceptually about the federal government using influence with media and journalists being a loophole to target political enemies, and how that is functionally the same as the government targeting their enemies directly
Do you have any proof of this as it relates to the current Ole Miss situation? If not, all of what you've typed reads as saying that the government is in bed with the media, which is an argument that would be laughed out of court (where you'd literally prove that the government was infringing on your right to freedom of speech) sans any actual evidence.
So, it seems that you're the person that doesn't understand reading comprehension.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:25 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Do you have any proof of this as it relates to the current Ole Miss situation? If not, all of what you've typed reads as saying that the government is in bed with the media, which is an argument that would be laughed out of court (where you'd literally prove that the government was infringing on your right to freedom of speech) sans any actual evidence
we're not in court, counselor. i'm not making a legal argument, and i am fully aware that this wouldnt hold up in court. i am making a generic, conceptual statement about the state of the world today, and how the government is able to control speech through influence without technically violating the constitution.
god i swear, you lawyers are intolerable.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:32 pm to LuckyTiger
For God's Sake, don't offend the communists!
Wait- I think I just did.
Wait- I think I just did.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:39 pm to Northshore Aggie
Guy did a long, drawn out monkey impression at a black person in a video. You think that doesn’t violate some rules of the gOveRnMeNt fUnDed institution? Are you fricking brain dead?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:39 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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So, it seems that you're the person that doesn't understand reading comprehension.
also, what the frick does this sentence even mean? that i dont understand what the term "reading comprehension" means? are you an actual college educated attorney?
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