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re: Great YT video "How the US Is Destroying Young People’s Future"

Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:53 am to
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
372 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:53 am to
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There ARE NO MORE STARTER homes


Not true.

But they’re probably not in neighborhoods you’d prefer to be in, not as large as you’d like, and definitely not instagram braggy material.

Boo hoo.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:55 am to
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Most are screwed. However, the wants on basic things like a house are much different today than for our grandparents. They lived in 3 br 1 bath box’s that were a lot smaller than the average home today. Features like paneled walls, 8 ft ceilings, low roof pitch, and small lots were very common. The features in most apartments today were not in the nicest of neighborhoods in the 1970’s and 1980’s.



my grandparents were soft as frick compared to my grandparent's grandparents

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:58 am to
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Not true.

But they’re probably not in neighborhoods you’d prefer to be in, not as large as you’d like, and definitely not instagram braggy material.

Boo hoo.





Then you haven't looked at real estate in awhile fat boomer.


Did crime just start in these areas? No. Boomer policies and boomer economies exacerbated those high-crime areas.


Same areas of crime today were high crime in the 90s-2000s.


Congrats on eliminating housing supply and driving up your home values.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:04 am to
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But they’re probably not in neighborhoods you’d prefer to be in, not as large as you’d like, and definitely not instagram braggy material.



absolutely right

you can have 3/2 in Pleasantville, Houston for 225k, I don't know why people are bitching LINK

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Assault: 887.6, which is 282.7 above the national average
Murder: 46.7, which is 6.1 above the national average
Robbery: 303.7, which is 135.5 above the national average
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15529 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:04 am to
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The government paid a large portion of college funding when your old arse was going to school. Hence the stories of being able to work and pay for school. Then yall started paying taxes and shifted the funding onto kids via giant loans to 18 year olds. Great!
Except they didn’t. There was this thing called community college you could not only get a lot of your undergraduate classes done, like my wife you could get a nursing degree from. Who worked for 30 years as one and retired. At a fraction of the cost btw.

I paid the first 3 years of college for my kids, the last they did student loans for. Why? I could afford it, but they needed to learn how to manage both debt and expectations. One of my kids wanted a degree in interior design, a hard field to go straight from college to. So my deal with them is they also get at least a minor in one they COULD go directly into the workforce into plus would help with what they wanted to do. They did, got a job with that CAD minor until 10 years after graduation they got the job they wanted. If they didn’t take my deal they could go straight into the workforce and figure out how to make it as a checker at Wal-Mart.

Smart decisions, not stupid ones lead to good outcomes FAR more often.
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
372 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:08 am to
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Then you haven't looked at real estate in awhile fat boomer.


Real estate?

I lived in a single wide trailer for a while in my 30s while saving for a house. I’m sure that type of dwelling is far below your standards.

Poor millennials. No one ever struggled before you snow flakes came along.

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15529 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:13 am to
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No you didn't. You, like pretty every fat boomer, believes you're some sort of superhuman exception to all of human history.
People before me who made good decisions did well, people who make good ones today do well. That hasn’t changed. People who make bad ones rarely do well, that hasn’t changed either.

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Hilarious
It’s hilarious you think making good decisions is so difficult. It’s not.

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The number of people with gender studies and art appreciation degrees is probably less than 0.1% of all college graduates.
Did you miss the number of majors I listed just out of their arts and sciences degrees that are basically useless? How many semester hours of those are required for degrees which are useful?

Jesus bleeding crucified Christ start THINKING.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35643 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:14 am to
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Except they didn’t.


Im talking about the state's share of the funding. It has shifted from states to individuals via loans over the past 30-40 years.

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There was this thing called community college you could not only get a lot of your undergraduate classes done,


Yes, those still exist but are also more expensive.

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I paid the first 3 years of college for my kids, the last they did student loans for. Why? I could afford it, but they needed to learn how to manage both debt and expectations


So your personal wealth was able to allow them a much more manageable debt load than the majority who had to finance most of the damn thing themselves.

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Smart decisions, not stupid ones lead to good outcomes FAR more often.


Having parents with money! Why didnt I think of that.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 11:15 am
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1488 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:14 am to
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The issue is most are blue collar/skilled. Kids are terrified of the stigma.


There are young men who will work these jobs, but the stigma is coming from women not wanting to marry a man working those jobs. It doesn’t matter how much they make, try telling a girl in the bar you do HVAC. Her eyes will glaze over faster than a fresh donut.

Men work the hard jobs to afford women and families. Quality women and families. No one wants to pull a seventy hour work week only to come home to some skank with a couple kids from her party years before you were in the picture.

Check out the dating statistics for the younger generation. It’s terrible. Also, to those saying kids vote Democrat, the trends are showing it’s the women voting Democrat. The men and trending hard Republican.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:16 am to
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Real estate?

I lived in a single wide trailer for a while in my 30s while saving for a house. I’m sure that type of dwelling is far below your standards.

Poor millennials. No one ever struggled before you snow flakes came along.



You'd be wrong chief.

The fact that you have a whiny child-like defense also puts on display how little the boomers actually care about the generations after them.


In a healthy society the older generation is concerned about leaving the world a better place for their kids. The boomers, who were adults for the last 50 years, are pointing at people in their 20s and 30s and blaming them for problems that have been growing for decades.

It's just another childish feature of the most entitled generation.

You can't just admit your circumstances were extremely fortunate and the generations after aren't coming into the same opportunity or freedom.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37412 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:20 am to
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Boomers created and curated an employment system that force fed college to their children and now they're screaming at them for listening.



This guy gets it.

College was a way for older generations to:
- Get rid of the responsibility of raising kids, supporting them
- Create unique, costly gateways to employment, and reduce investment of training of said employees. Which has completely reduced the long term investment of companies into people, gutting the idea of pensions and dedication (You want to talk about the immediacy focus on youth - that's Boomer stuff right there. The way to get ahead is not to invest in a company that wants to invest in you, it's to switch jobs every 4 years. Which is also why millenials are far more transiest - it's required. So yeah - also impacts real estate needs).
- Made other people pay for education - the government and kids
- Voted themselves raises, and voted themselves into a plethora of useless college positions, increasing the cost of college

And they did all of this while brainwashing kids AND making college a locked gateway to higher earning.


This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:22 am to
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The amount of people that post outlier stories thinking it means anything is wild to me


Let’s do a case study for you specifically. Where do you want to live? Let’s see if there is any reasonably priced homes in the are and if not, how far would you have to commute.
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
6994 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:23 am to
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here are affordable homes if you are willing to live in the ghetto or 2 hrs outside of city limits and commute every day while dealing with record inflation


FIFY
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72177 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:25 am to
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There is a glut of homes sitting empty and unsold in the city limits of Birmingham, Alabama.
Birmingham is one of the most dangerous cities in America.

The crime rate in the 80s was half of what it is now.

This is the other stupidity of those like you who hold these moronic opinions.

“Go buy a starter home in a neighborhood in Birmingham. It doesn’t matter that the crime rate in that neighborhood is twice as high as it was when I lived there. Just nut up and put your children in an overly violent neighborhood where the schools are so abysmal that I wouldn’t have sent my children there.”

All these references to “starter home availability” by you idiots are either in areas that you wouldn’t drive through with your car unlocked or are near areas that have zero jobs.

This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 11:27 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:25 am to
I currently own a home in a very nice area. My story doesn’t mean a single thing

I have no idea why it’s such a struggle for people to accept their personal story doesn’t mean a damn thing on the macro level
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:27 am to
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The amount of people that post outlier stories thinking it means anything is wild to me


Then give me a hypothetical. Young you just starting out, where do you want to live?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:29 am to
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I have no idea why it’s such a struggle for people to accept their personal story doesn’t mean a damn thing on the macro level


Because the macro level shouldn’t matter to the individual. You just need one house. So let’s start there.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:29 am to
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Then give me a hypothetical. Young you just starting out, where do you want to live?


No matter what city you pick, you are in worse shape than the generation before based on the income to goods ratio

Sorry that upsets you
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:29 am to
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Birmingham is one of the most dangerous cities in America.

The crime rate in the 80s was half of what it is now.

This is the other stupidity of those like you who hold these moronic opinions.

“Go buy a starter home in a neighborhood in Birmingham. It doesn’t matter that the crime rate in that neighborhood is twice as high as it was when I lived there. Just nut up and put your children in an overly violent neighborhood where the schools are so abysmal that I wouldn’t have sent my children there.”

All these references to “starter home availability” by you idiots are either in areas that you wouldn’t drive through with your car unlocked or are near areas that have zero jobs.



Same boomers suggesting people buy homes in those areas will be at the city council meeting this week protesting new apartment buildings or housing developments because it'll bring in crime and reduce their home values.


Somehow boomers have all the money and assets yet absolutely nothing about the current state of things is their fault.

Maybe the first generation ever to hate their kids.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 11:30 am
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6349 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:30 am to
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No matter what city you pick, you are in worse shape than the generation before based on the income to goods ratio


When did I say any of that? I just asking to do an exercise to see how realistic your claims are.
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