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re: Per John Kennedy, Johnson will bring 3 bills next week. Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine.

Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7590 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:02 pm to
How about, no, no*, and no.
* taking care of Taiwan is already in the DoD budget.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4554 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:07 pm to
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So he’s saying this is all I can do for now, give me a better majority after November and judge me on that work. I’m inclined to give him that chance before pulling the plug on him. If he disappoints then, frick him, get him out. But now is not a fair sample size, IMO.


Your post was a very fair assessment to date and I’m inclined to agree.
Posted by Deep Fried Gravy
Member since Oct 2023
75 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:09 pm to
Need names. I know this is a message board and venting or whatever.

But things are getting real in the real world and words matter.

Tryin to figure out who would be better than Johnson.

Same people who took down McCarthy have offered zero by way of solutions nor leadership. As expected.

Johnson is exponentially more conservative than McCarthy yet here we are.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Three bills will also have a harder time than one giant bill.


They need to split things up far more often. Get reps on record for what they really support.

Massive bills always have tons of crap in them that the rep may very well be against but is forced to vote for to get the things they do want through.

This is how we always move to the left. The crap no one talks about in these big bills.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5113 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:11 pm to
Maybe keep going until we get someone who isn’t a GD liar? That’s an option
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:11 pm to
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Johnson is exponentially more conservative than McCarthy yet here we are.


I think Johnson would look very different to the reactionaries if he had a 40 vote majority versus 2(?).
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5113 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:28 pm to
No one before him ever has. It’s always been AWATALAD regardless the margin
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11333 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:52 pm to
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3 bills for each situation. I like it that way and have no problem with this.


At least the dummies have figured out how to separate them.

But the senate won't pass them, they'll make it an omnibus and include welfare for China.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:57 pm to
Please quit giving Ukraine our money

Please
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31205 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I think Johnson would look very different to the reactionaries if he had a 40 vote majority versus 2(?).
quote:

I think Johnson would look very different to the reactionaries if he had a 40 vote majority versus 2(?).


He didn't have to bring that monster 2 trillion dollar bill to the floor regardless of the majority.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50054 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:12 pm to
2 trillion?

If you make your point without hyperbole it is far more likely to be taken seriously.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23869 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:14 pm to
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Pump money the defend the BORDERS OF OTHER COUNTRIES WHILE DOING NOTHING FOR OUR OWN POROUS BORDER???

He refused to bring the border protection bill for even a debate. No debate, no amendments or adjustments. No action. That’s what republicans are voting for. Gridlock
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5113 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:23 pm to
Nah. We’re 34,000,000,000,000 in debt. Stop fighting proxy wars and stop freeloaders walking across the border. This isn’t hard
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11598 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:42 pm to
Johnson has given the Dems everything they want and yet people here (and Trump) still line up to make excuses for him. This coward cast the deciding vote on the Biggs amendment to require warrants and follow the Constitution - and Johnson said 'no'.

There's no way to defend him. He voted against the Constitution.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31205 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:58 pm to
If you make your point without hyperbole it is far more likely to be taken seriously.

You don’t take anything seriously from anyone who might support Trump.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37175 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:16 pm to
He’s bringing single issue votes to the floor to let the democratic process play out.

He’s doing his job. If Dems and some republicans want to approve those bills, then those congressmen need to be dealt with.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9432 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:55 pm to
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He’s bringing single issue votes to the floor t

Yeah I thought he made this promise when he first started.

ETA: October 2023: Ukraine, Israel funding request should be split: House speaker
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22832 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:36 pm to
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It’d be nice to know specifically who would be better right now as Speaker. Be specific. Name the actual person. Don’t cop out. Name your top three.


He is in the senate, but the only one I could potentially believe would do the right thing is Rand Paul.

The reality is they are all compromised and could be dealt with in short order if they really do the right thing. It would take some balls to go against the defense contractors and deep state. Look at what has happened to Trump for going against the system. Trump has stupid money and doesn’t give a shite so he can do things against the established way. Very few people like that in politics that are interested in going against the established way.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 11:37 pm
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5652 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:07 am to
If the republicans had a 40 vote majority, guys like McCarthy and Johnson wouldn’t be speaker.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5061 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:11 am to
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He's voting Trump's values. And Trump's values are liberal spending values.


Don’t act like - besides your obvious TDS - you give a flying frick about spending.
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