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How would the US be different if women were never allowed to vote?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 4:44 am
Posted on 4/13/24 at 4:44 am
The US was one of the first democracies to enact full suffrage in 1920 with other democracies following such as the UK in 1928, France in 1944, etc.
So, the right to vote for women was not an assumed right for centuries in many geographies. And, one could argue the US either led the way, or, implicitly pressured other countries…depending on viewpoint.
In hindsight, how did political history change as a result? Would abortion be such a political lighting rod blinding over half of the electorate to other issues such as taxes, immigration, national security, etc.?
Even socially, did granting suffrage embolden women and others to push for additional “equal rights” leading to the women’s lib movement of the 1960s, latchkey kids of the 1970s/1980s?
Even today, how would Trump vs Biden look if suburban women weren’t a major voting block as was the case for most of history?
Interesting to contemplate.
So, the right to vote for women was not an assumed right for centuries in many geographies. And, one could argue the US either led the way, or, implicitly pressured other countries…depending on viewpoint.
In hindsight, how did political history change as a result? Would abortion be such a political lighting rod blinding over half of the electorate to other issues such as taxes, immigration, national security, etc.?
Even socially, did granting suffrage embolden women and others to push for additional “equal rights” leading to the women’s lib movement of the 1960s, latchkey kids of the 1970s/1980s?
Even today, how would Trump vs Biden look if suburban women weren’t a major voting block as was the case for most of history?
Interesting to contemplate.
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 8:04 am
Posted on 4/13/24 at 4:48 am to KwoodTiger
I’m way more interested in how different it would be if men were never allowed to vote.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:02 am to 4cubbies
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I’m way more interested in how different it would be if men were never allowed to vote.
Civilizational collapse.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:03 am to KwoodTiger
Definitely would not be as far into our decline….
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:08 am to TrueTiger
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Civilizational collapse.
keep telling yourself that.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:19 am to Barstools
Women too often vote on “feelings”,instead of logic.Lot of women I talk to can’t stand Trump,mean tweets,etc.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:27 am to 4cubbies
Femininity supports life.
Masculinity supports civilization.
Civilization is made possible from the threat of violence by men.
Houses and buildings- built by men
Roads and bridges - built by men
Armed defense - provided by men
Food in your grocery- grown and transported by men
Electric power- generated and transmitted by men
Ships, Trains, Planes, Trucks, and cars- built by men
You really want to tell men that they are unappreciated and to get lost?
The last thing you want is for men to become frustrated and quit.
Masculinity supports civilization.
Civilization is made possible from the threat of violence by men.
Houses and buildings- built by men
Roads and bridges - built by men
Armed defense - provided by men
Food in your grocery- grown and transported by men
Electric power- generated and transmitted by men
Ships, Trains, Planes, Trucks, and cars- built by men
You really want to tell men that they are unappreciated and to get lost?
The last thing you want is for men to become frustrated and quit.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 6:01 am to KwoodTiger
This country would be much better off
Women should also be raising their children not dropping them off at daycare for 10 hrs a day so some fat woman can watch them.
Women should also be raising their children not dropping them off at daycare for 10 hrs a day so some fat woman can watch them.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 6:11 am to Walt OReilly
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This country would be much better off Women should also be raising their children not dropping them off at daycare for 10 hrs a day so some fat woman can watch them.
Fewer dual income families = cheaper housing as well as other consumer items
Huge, far-reaching implications
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 6:15 am
Posted on 4/13/24 at 6:19 am to KwoodTiger
Women were meant for pleasure and birthin babies. And cooking warm meals every evening of course.
Of course I’m only kidding. Or am I……??
Of course I’m only kidding. Or am I……??
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 6:21 am
Posted on 4/13/24 at 6:20 am to KwoodTiger
The problem is men treat women like some object of worship today. There is nothing to keep them sane.
I know some great, strong independent women. They've avoided the simp traps.
Desperate, idiotic dudes treating women like princess is the problem.
I know some great, strong independent women. They've avoided the simp traps.
Desperate, idiotic dudes treating women like princess is the problem.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 6:21 am to KwoodTiger
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Fewer dual income families = cheaper housing as well as other consumer items
Exactly. The job market and housing market were adversely affected.
Wages dropped as the supply of workers increased.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:22 am to 4cubbies
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I’m way more interested in how different it would be if men were never allowed to vote.
The phenomena that would have ever led to that outcome would have also led to the extinction of the species. Your question is a self-defeater.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:25 am to KwoodTiger
That’s not the answer. The answer is you have to pay federal income taxes to be eligible to vote. If you don’t or receive income assistance prior to 65 you don’t the privilege.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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know some great, strong independent women. They've avoided the simp traps.
Desperate, idiotic dudes treating women like princess is the problem.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen the guys you're referring to.
I think the problem is taking relationships between men and women out of the context of committed marriage/family relationships.
Society was much more stable even with most people doing marriage badly when people were married, and by "married," I don't mean serial monogamy, I mean "'till death do us part."
As far as voting, I think society would mostly be better off, with a few exceptions. Cubbies can hate that all she wants. I think it's true. I don't think women are wired to generally make the best decisions in that context..
For example. I don't like Donald Trump. But I know the life of my family and millions of families like ours will be better if he is elected rather than a repeat of Joe Biden.
My wife doesn't like Donald Trump. Only there's a difference. Two differences, really. She doesn't just not like like him, she hates him. Gets angry talking about him. Can't keep from getting emotional about him.
I've never met the guy. I'll never have him over to my house. To me it's nothing personal. To her it is. I don't get emotional over the guy. She does.
That's difference number one.
Difference number two—closely related to difference number one—is that it's not difficult at all for me to walk into a booth and pull a lever for someone who is going to have a positive impact on me and people like me even if I don't like him. So what if I don't like him personally? That's got nothing to do with it.
My wife can't separate the two. And her feelings are so important to her that she would rather satisfy the urge to spite the guy by voting for the opposition than she would preserve the best interests of her family.
We went through this in 2020 and she didn't listen to me. After what has happened over the past 3 1/2 years—and what our grocery bill currently is when we check out at the store—she might be ready to listen this time.
Might be.
She could still succumb to emotion at the last minute.
*But I have an ace in the hole this time. Biden said something that made her as mad as she's ever been at Trump during last year's (not this past one) SOTUA. She's an audiologist and he basically called all audiologists crooks.
So voting day I'm going to remind her of that.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:49 am to wackatimesthree
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I just haven't seen the guys you're referring to.
You can sure see the results. Just look at social media.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:49 am to KwoodTiger
This country would be way better off.
Women are good at two things - cooking and taking care of babies. That’s it. They belong absolutely nowhere near a voting booth.
Women are good at two things - cooking and taking care of babies. That’s it. They belong absolutely nowhere near a voting booth.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote: Fewer dual income families = cheaper housing as well as other consumer items
Exactly. The job market and housing market were adversely affected.
Wages dropped as the supply of workers increased.
I have long thought this. Not only did the supply of workers go up, but, with both adults working, there was more disposable money in circulation. How long do you think it took for companies to figure that out and start charging more for stuff?
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